snowdond@r2.cs.man.ac.uk (D.N.Snowdon (MSc PJ)) (06/12/91)
Has anyone tried hooking up a Dvorak (sp?) type keyboard to an Amiga? Does anyone know where I might get hold of one of these? thanks Dave (snowdond@cs.man.ac.uk)
Ed_Meyer@mindlink.bc.ca (Ed Meyer) (06/13/91)
> martin@cbmvax.commodore.com writes: > > Msg-ID: <22396@cbmvax.commodore.com> > Posted: 13 Jun 91 13:38:30 GMT > > Org. : Commodore, West Chester, PA > Person: Martin Hunt > > In article <2671@m1.cs.man.ac.uk> snowdond@r2.cs.man.ac.uk (D.N.Snowdon (MSc > PJ)) writes: > > > > Has anyone tried hooking up a Dvorak (sp?) type keyboard to an Amiga? > > Does anyone know where I might get hold of one of these? > > thanks > > Dave (snowdond@cs.man.ac.uk) > > > Why not use the one included with your Amiga? Just "setmap usa2" and > rearrange the keycaps. > > Martin Hunt Commodore-Amiga martin@cbmvax.commodore.com > > "Windows 3.0 is hot because it's really fun. It has brought some > excitement back into the PC industry" - Microsoft > I wonder who took the excitement out in the first place? Martin, aren't the keys on the keyboard "sculptured"? Wouldn't this mean that just re-arranging the key-caps -- although giving the correct key map -- would not provide a correct keyboard feel? Ed Meyer
billc@cryo.rain.com (William J. Coldwell) (06/13/91)
In article <2671@m1.cs.man.ac.uk> snowdond@r2.cs.man.ac.uk (D.N.Snowdon (MSc PJ)) writes: > > Has anyone tried hooking up a Dvorak (sp?) type keyboard to an Amiga? > Does anyone know where I might get hold of one of these? Well, you pop up the keys on your keyboard and place them in the Dvorak pattern, the use your SetMap program with the USA2 keymap. Use your ShowKey program to set the correct keycaps (after setmap'ing). Remember, when you SetMap, EVERYTHING is affected from that point on which uses the keyboard. > thanks > Dave (snowdond@cs.man.ac.uk) -- William J. Coldwell Amiga Attitude Adjuster Cryogenic Software 3-D Pro | Anim. Station | CA-650 CD-ROM | CMI PA/MPB | Interact AppleTalk Nexus HD/Aries | CSA 40/4 Magnum | RAMbrandt | Video Blender | DoubleTalk Internet: billc@cryo.rain.com UUCP: tektronix!percy!cryo!billc
peterk@cbmger.UUCP (Peter Kittel GERMANY) (06/13/91)
In article <2671@m1.cs.man.ac.uk> snowdond@r2.cs.man.ac.uk (D.N.Snowdon (MSc PJ)) writes: > > Has anyone tried hooking up a Dvorak (sp?) type keyboard to an Amiga? > Does anyone know where I might get hold of one of these? Hmm, every Amiga comes already with a Dvorak keymap (is it usa2?)! So you setmap this keymap, take your original keyboard and just exchange some keytops :-). (Or are there also differences in keys with two really different meanings, like 1/! ?) -- Best regards, Dr. Peter Kittel // E-Mail to \\ Only my personal opinions... Commodore Frankfurt, Germany \X/ {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!cbmger!peterk
martin@cbmvax.commodore.com (Martin Hunt) (06/13/91)
In article <2671@m1.cs.man.ac.uk> snowdond@r2.cs.man.ac.uk (D.N.Snowdon (MSc PJ)) writes: > > Has anyone tried hooking up a Dvorak (sp?) type keyboard to an Amiga? > Does anyone know where I might get hold of one of these? > thanks > Dave (snowdond@cs.man.ac.uk) Why not use the one included with your Amiga? Just "setmap usa2" and rearrange the keycaps. Martin Hunt Commodore-Amiga martin@cbmvax.commodore.com "Windows 3.0 is hot because it's really fun. It has brought some excitement back into the PC industry" - Microsoft I wonder who took the excitement out in the first place?
jcg852@jcsneuro.uucp (John C Gallant) (06/14/91)
billc@cryo.rain.com (William J. Coldwell) writes: [..] >> Has anyone tried hooking up a Dvorak (sp?) type keyboard to an Amiga? [..] >Well, you pop up the keys on your keyboard and place them in the Dvorak >pattern, the use your SetMap program with the USA2 keymap. Use your >ShowKey program to set the correct keycaps (after setmap'ing). Remember, >when you SetMap, EVERYTHING is affected from that point on which uses the >keyboard. ^^^^^^^^^^ Not quite, unfortunately! I know that the Scribble! editor I have doesn't care about key mappings. It must use its own internal keymap. Also, MicroEMACS 3.9 did the same thing - an internal lookup table for translating raw keycodes to characters. I hope no-one is doing that sort of thing these days. -- Please note "ReplyTo:" field in header; "From:" field is incorrect. John Gallant
davewt@NCoast.ORG (David Wright) (06/17/91)
In article <6249@mindlink.bc.ca> Ed_Meyer@mindlink.bc.ca (Ed Meyer) writes: >> martin@cbmvax.commodore.com writes: >> Why not use the one included with your Amiga? Just "setmap usa2" and >> rearrange the keycaps. >Martin, aren't the keys on the keyboard "sculptured"? Wouldn't this mean that >just re-arranging the key-caps -- although giving the correct key map -- would >not provide a correct keyboard feel? Yes, they are. I tried doing this with my 3000, and the keymap was ALMOST perfect (see below). But the keys themselves sucked in their new position. For instance the "-_" key is MUCH higher than any key around it in the Dvorak layout, and other keys were much lower than they should be. I believe my old 1000's keys were "flat", and would probably make good Dvorak keyboards, but the units used on 500's, 2000's, and 3000's are definately NOT made for the keys to be moved to new positions. Also, is there a KeyMap editor for 2.0 yet? For some reason the "usa2" layout has the "[{" and "]}" keys mapped incorrectly (at least as far as the ANSI/ISO Dvorak keyboard layout is concerned). They are supposed to work the same on the Dvorak layout as the normal layout (a shifted '[' gives you '{'), but in the usa2 layout a shifted '[' gives you ']'. The reason the ANSI/ISO layout is the way it is was due to a desire to allow you to use the same key caps as a normal IBM-101 keyboard for use in the ANSI layout. I don't see why usa2 should differ. Dave
bojsen@moria.uucp (Per Bojsen) (06/20/91)
In article <1991Jun16.180616.20745@NCoast.ORG>, David Wright writes: > Yes, they are. I tried doing this with my 3000, and the keymap was > ALMOST perfect (see below). But the keys themselves sucked in their new > position. For instance the "-_" key is MUCH higher than any key around it in > the Dvorak layout, and other keys were much lower than they should be. > I believe my old 1000's keys were "flat", and would probably make good > Dvorak keyboards, > No, I don't think so. The keyboard on my A1000 had the same problem. -- .------------------------------------------------------------------------------. | Greetings from Per Bojsen. | +------------------------------+-----------------------------------------------+ | EMail: cbmehq!lenler!bojsen | "Names do have power, after all, that of | | Or: bojsen@dc.dth.dk | conjuring images of places we have not seen" | `------------------------------+-----------------------------------------------'