bwana@dorsai (william cernansky) (06/15/91)
I want to know some things about the Rejuvenator, being a poor A1000 owner
who will never have 2000 bucks to upgrade to anything. You see, first I
bought a computer, and THEN I got married and had children. Now I spend my
money (well most of it) on my family, and not on hardware, alas.
So, anyway, does ANYONE out there have a rejuvenated A1000, and if so, can
you answer these questions:
1) Does it go between the CPU and its socket?
2) Will it work with a Spirit Inboard (which DOES go between the CPU
and its socket)
3) Is it incredibly difficult to install?
4) Will it work with a CSA midget racer (which I don't have, and would
probably lift the cover of my A1000 about six inches above its current
level)
Lastly, does anyone know if a Spirit Inboard can peacefully coexist with a
CSA midget racer?
Thank you very much.
"Bwana" Bill Cernansky, king of the Scooby-Doo impersonatorsrodger@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Rodger Anderson) (06/16/91)
>/ hpdmd48:comp.sys.amiga.hardware / bwana@dorsai (william cernansky) / 2:12 am Jun 15, 1991 / >So, anyway, does ANYONE out there have a rejuvenated A1000, and if so, can >you answer these questions: I have a rejuvenator in my 1000. > 1) Does it go between the CPU and its socket? No. You remove your WCS daughter board and the special chips (agnus, paula, and denise) and install the rejuvenator in it's place. Then you install three jumpers. I dispensed with the jumpers and soldered the wires directly. > 2) Will it work with a Spirit Inboard (which DOES go between the CPU > and its socket) I think so. It mentions that it does work with a couple of the popular memory boards, and the Spirit board might be one of them. My docs are at home. > 3) Is it incredibly difficult to install? It depends on your technicial expertise. I didn't find it very hard to install, but then I'm an electronic tech. The hardest part for me was pushing down the plastic. (You'll know what I'm talking about when you get there.) > 4) Will it work with a CSA midget racer (which I don't have, and would > probably lift the cover of my A1000 about six inches above its current > level) I don't know. >Lastly, does anyone know if a Spirit Inboard can peacefully coexist with a >CSA midget racer? I really don't know this one. -- Rodger Anderson (rodger@hpdmmef.boi.hp.com) or(rodger%hpdmmef@relay.hp.com)
bwana@dorsai (william cernansky) (06/17/91)
rodger@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Rodger Anderson) writes: > > 3) Is it incredibly difficult to install? > > It depends on your technicial expertise. I didn't find it very hard > to install, but then I'm an electronic tech. The hardest part for me > was pushing down the plastic. (You'll know what I'm talking about > when you get there.) > I thank you sincerely for your answers. I used to build circuit boards for Honeywell on an assembly line, so the installation should be fairly easy, based on what you say. After all (and others with an Inboard will know about this), I got my Spirit Inboard installed without killing my machine. *That* is a feat. "Bwana" Bill "I don't buy it" Cernansky, Sr.
tom@microsoft.UUCP (Tom MCCONNELL) (06/24/91)
In article <kNHk44w163w@dorsai> bwana@dorsai (william cernansky) writes: >I want to know some things about the Rejuvenator, being a poor A1000 owner >who will never have 2000 bucks to upgrade to anything. You see, first I >bought a computer, and THEN I got married and had children. Now I spend my >money (well most of it) on my family, and not on hardware, alas. > >So, anyway, does ANYONE out there have a rejuvenated A1000, and if so, can >you answer these questions: > 1) Does it go between the CPU and its socket? No, it replaces the A1000's daugterboard. It uses all of the lines that normally went up to the daughter board to perform its magic. > 2) Will it work with a Spirit Inboard (which DOES go between the CPU > and its socket) The only possible problem you might have with this is whether the Spirit Inboard overlaps the same space as the Rejuvenator. Not having a Spirit board, I couldn't tell you. But the manufacturer, Expert Services, could. Phone is (606)371-9690. > 3) Is it incredibly difficult to install? It took me about 2 hours. The most time consuming part is that you have to completely dismantle your machine and pull out the motherboard. The only tricky part is that the rejevnator works by having the new ECS chip slots moved off of the motherboard and onto the new daughter board. They do this by having the daughter board have pins which extend down into the old chip sockets! This means that you have to line up not only the 100+ pins for the daughterboard, but also all of the pins for the custom chips as well! It took me 1/2 hour of constant fiddling before I got them all lined up. Needless to say, I hope I never have to remove the damn thing. The good news is that the manual is very well written, and I was never confused at any point. > 4) Will it work with a CSA midget racer (which I don't have, and would > probably lift the cover of my A1000 about six inches above its current > level) I have talked to the CSA people and they say that it works and it works great! There is only 1 catch. They have to install it. They have a specially modified MMR which has extended pins to make it compatible. Buy your MMR anywhere you like, and send your A1000+installed Rej+MMR, and they will completely install the special MMR and keep the original MMR. They completely certify that it is working before they send it back. Installation cost is $250, for labor, the extended pins, and a replacement floppy. (The standard one is too thick.) They send you back an incredible super deluxe A1000 running a 68030 and ECS chips! They said they have done over a houndred of these and they work great. (of _course_ they would say that!) > >Lastly, does anyone know if a Spirit Inboard can peacefully coexist with a >CSA midget racer? > I would think absolutely NOT. There is only so much space under the hood of your poor 1000! But it would work if it was an external ram board. Sell it and get a minimegs, or better yet, do what I do. I have an expansion technologies ToolBox, with 2 Zorro II slots, one with a TrumpCard Pro-Quantom HD combo. (very fast!) and they other just waiting for an ethernet board! ;-) I also have a A2320 flicker fixer in my rejevenator and I LOVE IT! I waited 6 LONG years and I LOVE no flicker! I can't believe I waited this long! But who needs normal memory anymore? The rejevnator gives you 1 meg, with the ability to go to 2 megs CHIP ram, and it autoconfig's your A1000's old 512k chip ram as 512k FAST ram! So potentially, the rejenator can give you 2.5 meg of ram, and the MMR 16 meg of really darn fast 32bit ram! >Thank you very much. >"Bwana" Bill Cernansky, king of the Scooby-Doo impersonators Perhaps I'm getting carried away. At any rate. I have one, I love it, and it definitely will work with a flicker fixer, expansion technologies toolbox, and a MMR. -Tom -- "Hey COW!" _____________(( / ** o\ ______ _______________________ /| **** \ _/moo...\ | Tom McConnell | / | ** /\__/ \______/ | uunet!microsoft!tom |