etxpihl@texas.ericsson.se (DEE Tomas Pihl) (06/26/91)
Hi Amiga guys,
I just bought a Quantum Pro105s (SCSI) by mail-order (very cheap!!), but
the installation docs wasn't for Amiga. It was for Mac. My question
is:
How many heads has the HD?
How many cylinders has the HD?
How many sectors/track has the HD?
The installation program 'Prep' needs this info to be able to initiate
the HardDisk. What I made was that I just made up these values like 7
heads, 2500 cyl's etc., but then I got the fault 'Device not PREPed'
from Prep. That must be because the values are incorrect
I have a ST-506 Toshiba HD already so this HD is the second one (SCSI)
in my system.
If someone has any information abount the heads, cylinders & sec/tracks,
I would appreciate if you could send me an E-mail. If you have a MountList,
send it aswell. Can by handy to have when I configurate my HD.
PLEASE HELP!! I guess many AMiga-owners has this type of HardDisk, so
please dig in your devs-directory!!!
My address should be up there, but here it's again:
etxpihl@texas.ericsson.se
Regards Tomas
--
Tomas Pihl ; E-mail: etxpihl@texas.ericsson.se
Erisson Telecom AB ; Memo : etx.etxpihl / _ |o o|
Stockholm, Sweden <---- ; -- Great country!! /.._/ \___~joe@cbmvax.commodore.com (Joe O'Hara - Product Assurance) (06/26/91)
In article <1991Jun26.064822.3223@ericsson.se> etxpihl@texas.ericsson.se (DEE Tomas Pihl) writes: >Hi Amiga guys, > >I just bought a Quantum Pro105s (SCSI) by mail-order (very cheap!!), but >the installation docs wasn't for Amiga. It was for Mac. My question >is: > How many heads has the HD? > How many cylinders has the HD? > How many sectors/track has the HD? Heads .......... 1 Cylinders ...... 2097 Sectors/Track .. 98 -- ========================================================================== Joe O'Hara || Disclaimer: I didn't say that! Commodore Electronics Ltd || Product Assurance || "I never lie when I have sand in my shoes." Systems Evaluation Group || - Geordi LeForge, Star Trek TNG ==========================================================================
rkushner@sycom.UUCP (Ronald Kushner) (06/27/91)
joe@cbmvax.commodore.com (Joe O'Hara - Product Assurance) writes: >In article <1991Jun26.064822.3223@ericsson.se> etxpihl@texas.ericsson.se (DEE >>Hi Amiga guys, >> >>I just bought a Quantum Pro105s (SCSI) by mail-order (very cheap!!), but >>the installation docs wasn't for Amiga. It was for Mac. My question >>is: >> How many heads has the HD? >> How many cylinders has the HD? >> How many sectors/track has the HD? > > Heads .......... 1 > Cylinders ...... 2097 > Sectors/Track .. 98 These stats confuse me. My A3000 says my P105S has 1 head, 2929 cylinders, and 70 blocks/track, and when I had the GVP Series II it came up with 6 heads, 1004 Cylinders, and 34 sectors per track....Why so many variations? I have a hardframe here(thats been for sale for the last year, if anyone is interested) and it gives me totally different numbers as well... -- C-UseNet V0.42e Ronald Kushner Life in Hell BBS +1 (313) 939-6666 P.O. Box 353 14400 USR HST V.42 & V.42bis Sterling Heights, MI 48311-0353 Complete Amiga Support UUCP: uunet!umich!vela!sycom!rkushner (We are not satanic, just NUTS!) The lack of money is the root of all evil.
etxpihl@texas.ericsson.se (DEE Tomas Pihl) (06/27/91)
In <rkushner.3077@sycom.UUCP> rkushner@sycom.UUCP (Ronald Kushner) writes: >joe@cbmvax.commodore.com (Joe O'Hara - Product Assurance) writes: >>In article <1991Jun26.064822.3223@ericsson.se> etxpihl@texas.ericsson.se (DEE >>>Hi Amiga guys, >>> >>>I just bought a Quantum Pro105s (SCSI) by mail-order (very cheap!!), but >>>the installation docs wasn't for Amiga. It was for Mac. My question >>>is: >>> How many heads has the HD? >>> How many cylinders has the HD? >>> How many sectors/track has the HD? >> >> Heads .......... 1 >> Cylinders ...... 2097 >> Sectors/Track .. 98 >These stats confuse me. My A3000 says my P105S has 1 head, 2929 cylinders, and >70 blocks/track, and when I had the GVP Series II it came up with 6 heads, >1004 Cylinders, and 34 sectors per track....Why so many variations? I have a >hardframe here(thats been for sale for the last year, if anyone is interested) >and it gives me totally different numbers as well... >-- C-UseNet V0.42e > Ronald Kushner Life in Hell BBS +1 (313) 939-6666 > P.O. Box 353 14400 USR HST V.42 & V.42bis > Sterling Heights, MI 48311-0353 Complete Amiga Support > UUCP: uunet!umich!vela!sycom!rkushner (We are not satanic, just NUTS!) > The lack of money is the root of all evil. I find this also VERY STRANGE!!. I got some answers on my question and all of them has different answers. I phoned my local dealer last night and he said that I didn't have to use 'Prep' to install my new SCSI drive. It was just to mount it and format it. I tried that, but as I guessed, it didn't work. I haven't tried 'Prep' with the new values I got from all of you, but I will. Perhaps someone that has intalled a Quantum Pro105S in an A2000 with A2090a can give me some help. E-mail is fine. Please help me, because I'm sitting on $500 and I can't use it!!! Regards -- Tomas Pihl ; E-mail: etxpihl@texas.ericsson.se Erisson Telecom AB ; Memo : etx.etxpihl / _ |o o| Stockholm, Sweden <---- ; -- Great country!! /.._/ \___~
mk59200@cc.tut.fi (Kolkka Markku) (06/27/91)
In article <rkushner.3077@sycom.UUCP> rkushner@sycom.UUCP (Ronald Kushner) writes: >> Heads .......... 1 >> Cylinders ...... 2097 >> Sectors/Track .. 98 > >These stats confuse me. My A3000 says my P105S has 1 head, 2929 cylinders, and >70 blocks/track, and when I had the GVP Series II it came up with 6 heads, >1004 Cylinders, and 34 sectors per track....Why so many variations? The only significant number is the total number of available blocks that is reported by the drive. You can factorize it between heads, cyliders and sectors any way you want as long as the total is equal or smaller to the available disk space. -- Markku Kolkka mk59200@cc.tut.fi
oleg@crash.cts.com (Oleg Rovner) (06/28/91)
In article <rkushner.3077@sycom.UUCP> rkushner@sycom.UUCP (Ronald Kushner) writes: >joe@cbmvax.commodore.com (Joe O'Hara - Product Assurance) writes: >>In article <1991Jun26.064822.3223@ericsson.se> etxpihl@texas.ericsson.se (DEE >>>Hi Amiga guys, >>> >>>I just bought a Quantum Pro105s (SCSI) by mail-order (very cheap!!), but >>>the installation docs wasn't for Amiga. It was for Mac. My question >>>is: >>> How many heads has the HD? >>> How many cylinders has the HD? >>> How many sectors/track has the HD? >> >> Heads .......... 1 >> Cylinders ...... 2097 >> Sectors/Track .. 98 > >These stats confuse me. My A3000 says my P105S has 1 head, 2929 cylinders, and >70 blocks/track, and when I had the GVP Series II it came up with 6 heads, >1004 Cylinders, and 34 sectors per track....Why so many variations? I have a >hardframe here(thats been for sale for the last year, if anyone is interested) >and it gives me totally different numbers as well... > >-- C-UseNet V0.42e > Ronald Kushner Life in Hell BBS +1 (313) 939-6666 > P.O. Box 353 14400 USR HST V.42 & V.42bis > Sterling Heights, MI 48311-0353 Complete Amiga Support > UUCP: uunet!umich!vela!sycom!rkushner (We are not satanic, just NUTS!) > The lack of money is the root of all evil. I think the confusion arises from the fact that there are two different Q105 models. The first one is the 6 head, 3.5" half height, the second one is the single platter low profile 3.5". The half heights are being dumped at $350 or so, so low profiles are $450. The one inch drive is the LP105S, the half height is simply 105S. I'd imagine the 3000s have the newer drives, while the "I just got a cheap 105 meg drive" questions concern the older variety. OR
jdp@caleb.UUCP (Jim Pritchett) (06/28/91)
In article <1991Jun26.064822.3223@ericsson.se> etxpihl@texas.ericsson.se (DEE Tomas Pihl) writes: >Hi Amiga guys, > >I just bought a Quantum Pro105s (SCSI) by mail-order (very cheap!!), but >the installation docs wasn't for Amiga. It was for Mac. My question >is: > How many heads has the HD? > How many cylinders has the HD? > How many sectors/track has the HD? > I am posting this reply because this drive is very popular (and now very cheap at certain dealers, i.e. HDI.) Surfaces = 6 BlocksPerTrack = 34 LowCyl = 1 HighCyl = 1004 This information is as reported by the GVP FaastPrep (tm) software. It works for me. -- Jim Pritchett UUCP: texsun.central.sun.com!letni!rwsys!caleb!jdp or spudge.lonestar.org!caleb!jdp or letni.lonestar.org!dms3b1!caleb!jdp
andy@gothic.uucp (Andreas Hofbauer) (06/29/91)
In article <jdp.0099@caleb.UUCP> jdp@caleb.UUCP (Jim Pritchett) writes: >In article <1991Jun26.064822.3223@ericsson.se> etxpihl@texas.ericsson.se (DEE Tomas Pihl) writes: >> How many heads has the HD? >> How many cylinders has the HD? >> How many sectors/track has the HD? > Surfaces = 6 > BlocksPerTrack = 34 > LowCyl = 1 > HighCyl = 1004 Actually under SCSI terms the number of sectors/blockspertrack/lowcyl/highcyl doesn't really matter, because SCSI addresses data on the medium with logical block numbers. The Quantum PRO 105 S has a formatted capacity of 205,074 blocks of 512 bytes each, which are addressed as block numbers from 0 to 205,073. Thus, you may enter anything for surfaces/etc... as long as you result with less than 205,074 blocks. The number of blocks computes as NumBlocks = Surfaces * BlocksPerTrack * (HighCyl - LowCyl + 1); Physically the Quantum PRO 105 S drive has 1,019 data cylinders and 6 data heads. It has 2 distinct data zones: The outer zone is 831 cylinders large and stores 35 blocks per track, the inner zone has 188 cylinders with 28 blocks per track. These include blocks used for remapping, and are thus not available for data storage. As you see, you cannot match your mountlist with the physical layout on the drive. _ --(_) | | Andreas Hofbauer, Software Designer |bsc| bueroautomation AG (ECG001) ---