chowkwan@aerospace.aero.org (07/26/90)
Mike Moffat, the chief designer at Theta Digital, visited our audiophile club at work yesterday to demo his DSPre Basic D/A converter and to talk about things digital. My impressions of the DSPre Basic: It made all the music we tried sound much smoother and more pleasant. (The unit has a switch to allow you flip back and forth between converter and CD player). Without the converter, the highes sounded etched and hard. With the converter in, the high end becomes more rounded, fuller. I can`t speak to imaging as tonal qualities are my main interest. But some present claimed that imaging was improved also. We listened for about .5 hour on the following equipment: A pair of Bruce Edgar home brew specials: horn loaded speakers. (he is a contributor to Speaker Builder magazine). Lord only knows what kind of speaker wire. Home brew power amp. As one interconnects between converter and amp. Straight Wire video cable between Phillips CD player and converter (to carry the digital signal). Sources: 1. Some dreadful Strauss tone poem. Couldn't tell too much from this because it starts out with a series of low level rumblings. 2. Solid Brass at the Opera on Dorian. You could definitely hear a more rounded and natural horn tone on the first cut. 3. The Chesky test CD. The first enjoyable musical cut for me. The last jazz track before the test stuff comes on sounded delightful. Very live, warm, and involving. 4. The Opus 3 Depth of Image test CD Well, I can't tell you if the image was deep, but I did enjoy the music. Again, very rich and satisfying. There followed a .5 hour question and answer session with Mike. I posted, soliciting questions for Mike. Thanks to Bill Spencer, Sandy Lavine, Brett Martin for responding. Unfortunately I wasn't able to pose some of your questions because other club members had to get their questions in too. Here is a summary of Mike's thoughts: 1. Wadia vs. Krell (2 of Theta's competitors) Krell does true 64X oversampling. Wadia does a tricky thing with cascaded converters where a 4X (?) converter feeds into an 16X (?) converter. This may or may not be considered true 64X oversampling (depending mainly on whether you're in the Krell camp or not). Mike didn't want to have any part of this dispute. 2. Theta vs. (Wadia + Krell) Theta advocates "brickwall" while Wadia and Kress both stress oversampling. Now I wasn't too sure what a brickwall should be doing in my d/a converter but as far as I could make out it means filtering out all frequencies above 21Khz or so. i.e. Mike said that beyond 21Khz, the Theta output practically drops to zero whereas the Wadia and Krell do not. The reason they do not is that they expend their computing power on all that oversampling business with nothing left over for brickwalling. (Theta is 8X oversampling). In short, Mike's motto is "Better music through better DSP". (Digital Signal Processing). OK, you can tell I'm out of my technical depth. Well, I'm here to tell you that I have neither the knowledge or interest to understand what the brickwall vs. oversampling dispute is all about. Those of you who know DSP are welcome to post better explanations. 3. Tubes. He is not going to make a converter with a tubed analog stage a la Stax or CAL. :-( He made tube amps 15 years ago but, in his opinion, you just can't get good tubes anymore. i.e. he doesn't want all the headaches associated with people returning their boxes because the tubes failed. (Having had to take my VTL 90/90 back to the shop for the second time in six months, he may have a point there. But I'm sticking to my tubes anyway.) 4. Wires. Mike isn't interested in digital as a "black art". I take that to mean unexplainable phenomenon that cause the music to sound good. i.e. he likes to have a sound technical explanation for what he hears. Nevertheless, he does hear differences between cables, without having a good reason why this should be so. There were some know factors however: (i) We need a digital wire with the least propagation delay. Wire that conforms to the RG-64 spec is good. This is some kind of generic wire spec that came out of the military. Available (who knows where) at low cost. He said something about the bandwidth of the wire has to be so many MHz. Sorry I can't supply the details, electricity is not my strong suit. (ii) Whatever the differences between digital wires, it's got *nothing* to do with dropping bits. All the wires he's tested deliver all the bits. He suspects something to do with timing. 5. Language. He programs in (heavens forfend) assembly language. 6. Production. They're shipping 130 units a week. 7. Pre and Pro, Senior and basic. Theta makes Pre and Pro units. With both units, you take the digitial signal out of your CD player or transport and input to the Theta. The d/a conversion is done and the output from the Theta can go to either pre-amp or amp. The Pre unit has the switch that allows you to flip between your CD and the converter. It has an *active* gain control which doesn't add any gain of its own. The Pro unit is the converter only. This is what I would get. I don't see the need for the Pre's gain features, if you have your own pre-amp. Theta also makes senior and basic models. Both share the *same* DSP circuitry. The senior model has better power supplies and superior parts. (Both senior and basic come in Pre and Pro models). 8. Balanced output. Furthermore, the senior model is available with balanced output which, with some suitable handwaving, reduces the noise. Needs special cables though. 9. Cost. Theta is at the low end of the scale for high end processors. Stax has a $12K model. Krell and Wadia both make a range of models of which the 64X over are the top of the line. The bottom of the line Wadia and Krell are in line with the Theta basic models we saw. So, you're still with me. At this point, I get on my soapbox and make sure I drive away any readers who may be left. Someone emailed me asking why it should be necessary to build a fancy converter when the recordings are made with crappy Sony a/d converters. My answer is that when you hear a well-recorded CD like a Chesky, it's worth it. (I commend Non-Stop to Brazil as worthy of your attention). It's like anything in life. Garbage In, Garbage Out. Feed your converter good sources and good things will come out. Personally, I feel the quality of the music overwhelms pure sonic considerations. I can listen to DG quite happily, if the music is to my liking whereas the best-recorded Telarc will leave me cold if the musical quality is not there. David, you're still here. Well your reward is that you may reprint this post in its entirety in Positive Feedback. Just remember, these are the ravings of mind deprived of its daily VTL fix. -- ray