[rec.audio.high-end] POSITIVE FEEDBACK 1/91

david@uwm.UUCP (David Robinson) (03/05/91)

The following article is from POSITIVE FEEDBACK, the newsletter of the
Oregon Triode Society, and is Copyright 1991, all rights reserved.  This
article may be reposted or reprinted, as long as it is not resold, and as
long as proper attribution of the source is made in full.  Please keep
this header in all copies made of this article.

David W. Robinson
Editor, POSITIVE FEEDBACK
david@agora.rain.com

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VINYL REFLECTIONS

Larry Sturtz  

Until the most recent list the composer most conspicuously
absent from  TAS recommended recordings was old Ludwig
himself.  Yes, Beethoven, without whom most subscription
series would be bereft.  Even the current list has only
Solti's bloodless 9th and one crummy piano sonata on what I
believe is a super analog disc.  Neither I nor other
collectors I've talked to have an explanation for this
phenomenon.  Perhaps Beethoven's viscerally engaging music
with its economy of expression is just not compatible with
the audiophile experience.

Well, all the above is nothing more than a convenient hook to
hang a quick review of Beethoven's 9 symphonies. Pretty
sneaky huh?  Actually another situation I have found myself
in over the years as the self appointed expert on classical
music in various offices is answering the question what's the
best set of Beethoven symphonies to buy? Answer-none. The
best set is made up of various conductors efforts.  Of course
most of those questioning me were not satisfied and pushed
for a recommendation.

If you must have a boxed set for convenience and simplicity
the 1962 Karajan cycle on DGG would be my reluctant top
choice. If you can find early pressings the sound is quite
good and with the exception of the hurried 6th performances
are fine. HVK's 1977 run-thru offers no performance
improvements and sound is murky. Avoid the made for TV 80's
issues.

The Command set by William Steinberg and the Pittsburgh
(early pressings only) is underrated. Only the 9th is
disappointing and the 3rd, 5th and 7th are superb. Avoid the
later pressings by ABC-Paramount.

The Leibowitz Readers Digest set has gotten a bit of
audiophile ink lately.  My limited listening forays into the
set have not impressed me. Based on what I've heard I would
not recommend paying the present asking price.

That's enough on completes. Perhaps in a future article we
can go further, for now let's assemble a set of the 9 from
single issues. Beginning at the end the 9th I can't live
without is Hans Schmidt-Isserstedt on London/Decca. Relaxed
tempos and the vocal quartet of Sutherland/Talvela/King/Horne
make this the one I reach for first.  Besides the 1962
Karajan (coupled with the 8th), listen also to the
Furtwangler(Seraphim), Toscanini, Stokowski(Phase 4)and
Solti(Decca/London). Yes I've heard the Norrington on
original instruments, except for the surprises it was
malnourished and boring, ten bucks shot.

The slender 8th, occupying only a single side usually is a
filler, but there is one recording I recommend seeking out;
Pablo Casals conducting the Marlboro Festival orchestra on
Columbia MS 6931 backed by Mendelssohn's 4th in gritty sound.

The broad shouldered 7th can stand a variety of approaches. I
prefer quick, lean performances. Karajan '62 and Steinberg
stand out. Consider also both Colin Davis performances(EMI,
Philips), Klemperer(EMI) and Bruno Walter(Columbia with the
Columbia Symphony).

Karl Bohm captures more of the magic of the Pastorale for me
than any other conductor.  His DGG performance with the VPO
is a must. Relaxed yet vibrant, taut where necessary,
gorgeous. Other 6ths worth hearing are Steinberg, any of the
Jochum's, Walter and Klemperer. Avoid the humorless and
hurried Toscanini and Karajan.

There are dozens of perfectly acceptable and sometimes
exciting performances of the 5th but, there is one that
stands above all others and that is Carlos Kleiber and the
VPO on DGG-DO NOT MISS THIS RECORDING, available in all
formats in generally indifferent sound, which matters not at
all. Others I like are Giulini(LAPO, DGG), Szell(Philips),
Dorati(Mercury) and Steinberg.

Then only 4th with its head above the crowd is Kiril
Kondrashin on Seraphim. There was no Angel issue. If there
was an ASD on EMI I never saw it. The Seraphim shows up in
the used bins regularly, give it a try.

My Eroica choice is a little offbeat, John Barbirolli on
Angel/EMI. Tempos are slooooow, but the tension builds
inexorably. Try it, you may like it. Karajan '62, Steinberg,
Schmidt-Isserstedt, Klemperer and a bunch of others are fine.
Take your pick.

I don't have a first choice for 1 and 2 but remember liking
Marriner(Philips), Hogwood(Oiseau) and Walter.

At one time there were at least 12 completes and a minimum of
5 individual performances of each symphony on my shelves. The
present state of disarray prevents an accurate count, just
say enough.  At the risk of being considered eccentric the
following Beethoven symphony performances are essential to me
; (1) all the above first choices and most of the honorable
mentions, (2) Karajan's 62 complete, (3) The Toscanini RCA
complete, (4) Bernstein's live DGG complete, (5) Szell(Epic)
and Walter(Columbia) completes, and finally (6) Reiner's
5,6,7 on Shaded Dog.

Excessive? Not at all. Happy trails.

david@uwm.UUCP (David Robinson) (03/05/91)

The following article is from POSITIVE FEEDBACK, the newsletter of the
Oregon Triode Society, and is Copyright 1991, all rights reserved.  This
article may be reposted or reprinted, as long as it is not resold, and as
long as proper attribution of the source is made in full.  Please keep
this header in all copies made of this article.

David W. Robinson
Editor, POSITIVE FEEDBACK
david@agora.rain.com


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SO, WHAT IS MY REFERENCE SYSTEM?

Charles Wiens


Well, let's see...since I like to collect boat anchors that just happen to 
contain tubes, there are about 85 pieces (threatening to cause major 
structural damage to my attic) from which I can choose. 

I'll start with the source of all evil:  The cartridge.  Currently I'm using 
a Shure V15 MkII that happened to be in a Dual 1229 purchased for 50 cents 
at the local "as is" store.  It's no Koetsu Rosewood, but it has a nice 
silky sound that suits my archaic tastes just fine--and the price was right.

On to the turntable(s).  This choice depends on the mood I'm in.  As all 42 
of my tables cost 50 cents each, I confine my moods to ones of quiet 
resignation.  However, in rare moods of serious listening I like to use a 
Thorens TD 160 I ran across recently.  It's rather sensitive to vibration in 
a home environment, but in my downtown listening studio with its 18" 
concrete floor, who cares?  I also have examples of every Dual known to man.  
The 1000 and 1200 series have interchangeable and quickly removable 
cartridge mounts, so I use a nicely restored 1229 when comparing the huge 
assortment of pre-1972 AKGs, Pickerings, Shures, etc., that I have on hand.

The pre-amp in this system-to-end-all-systems was a Dyna PAS 2 until the cat 
pissed on it.  That turned out to be a fortunate elimination since a 
determined effort at...you guessed it, the "as-is" store...turned up a 
McIntosh MX 110 tuner/pre-amp, which I quickly snapped up for a dollar.  At 
first, one channel of the phono section appeared to be gone, but a little 
contact cleaner on the rotary switches revealed a perfectly functioning 
unit.  It looks neat, too.  Other pre-amps on hand that met my budget 
requirements ($1.00) include a Dyna PAS 3, the PAS 2--which is working 
again--a Fisher 400 CX, two Mac C-8s and a Quad 33.
 
Now to the power amp.  Until about amonth ago, I was using a Scott LK 150 
given me (along with the C-8s) by my tax man, an old hippie from Chicago.  
Guilt at this free acquisition has caused me to promise him a pair of 
speakers in return.  

Recently, however, I actually allowed Ian Joel to talk me into parting with 
the unheard of sum of $250 for an unnamed, homemade amp from his Trading 
Post.  I have dubbed it the TEK SG:  "SG" for "Spontaneous Generation."  Ian 
thinks it was built by a Tektronics engineer, as the transformers are 
obviously TEK.  I, however, am convinced its existence is due to a rare 
encounter between a dumpster full of old TEK parts and an aging Big Mac 
guided by divine intervention.  I'm also convinced that Ian made a 25,000% 
profit on the deal, but the amp does indeed sound smoother than my LK 150, 
and has astounding low frequency extension.  My only complaint is that when 
it is turned upside down, all the tubes fall out of their sockets and roll 
around on the floor.  I've concluded, through careful listening tests, that 
this phenomenon does have a subtle degrading effect on the sound stage, and 
now operate the unit in the upright position only.

Finally, we reach the heart of every fine audio system:  The loudspeakers.  
Hey, I built 'em myself and they're reaaaaally rad, man.  They've got a 6 
1/2" groaner and a 1 1/8" dome squeaker with a frequency response of DC to 
light (plus or minus).  For those of you who've seen and heard the wonders 
at Ian's store, the high tech imported Italian porcelain tile covering the 
sides and top is guaranteed to do absolutely nothing except give the owner 
back strain when moving them.  I would like to humbly and graciously thank 
the highly sophisticated audiopholes among you who appreciate their tonal 
quality, and to condemn and admonish the tin-eared jerks who didn't.

Well, that about wraps up my reference system.  It's not exactly state-of-
the-art, but then again...neither am I.

P.S.  My wife would like to point out that her reference system is a 1964 9' 
Baldwin concert grand and a pianist capable of playing anything ever 
written:  Herself.