[sci.virtual-worlds] Teleutopias

esz001@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Will Overington) (05/21/91)

Will Overington
Department of Electrical, Electronic and Systems Engineering,
Coventry Polytechnic,
Priory Street,
Coventry CV1 5FB,
England.


Virtual Reality Course?


I remember seeing an item in sci.virtual-worlds some time ago
which mentioned an opportunity to see some video tapes about
virtual reality at some educational establishment in the United
States.

(Was it West Coast? Was it California?)

Anyway, the item made mention of people registered at the
establishment as able to count credits for viewing the tapes.

Well, I've been wondering if it is possible, and I know little
about the American education system, for some sort of virtual
reality course to be put together as a distance teaching package.

This could involve video tapes and whatever else is available.
In the case of video tapes there would need to be a conversion to
British PAL 625 line television from American NTSC 525 line
television, for those of us in the UK.  This can be done, but it
would be best if it is only done the once rather than having to
be arranged by each end user.

Naturally there would need to be assessments and, perhaps,
examinations.

Materials to be assessed could be put in the mail.

Any examinations could be invigilated locally almost anywhere in
the world.  It would simply be a matter of arranging matters with
a local college, who may not charge very much if the examination
is taken when some other, local, examination is taking place.

Is this in any way a practical proposition?

Is there any organization out there that might like to run it?

Is there anyone in the group who would like to enrol on such a
course if it existed?

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Will Overington
Department of Electrical, Electronic and Systems Engineering,
Coventry Polytechnic,
Priory Street,
Coventry CV1 5FB,
England.
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Coventry is a city in the centre of England, about a hundred
miles from London, and about twenty miles north of Stratford-
upon-Avon.
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esz001@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Will Overington) (05/22/91)

22nd May 1991

Will Overington
Department of Electrical, Electronic and Systems Engineering,
Coventry Polytechnic,
Priory Street,
Coventry CV1 5FB,
England.


Teleutopias

Readers may remember that I am theorising about the setting up of
a company that would broadcast educational software.  The idea is
that all educational software submitted to the company, provided
that it was to the stated format, would be accepted for
broadcasting.  A person submitting such software to the company
would be issued with a token, a sort of trading stamp issued by
the company.  Collectors of the tokens could receive redemption
merchandise in exchange for the tokens.  This is intended to
provide an exchange rate mechanism so that there is no need to
artificially set quotas of how much software can be accepted from
software authors.  The redemption merchandise is intended to
include educational materials and, if the law permits, shares in
the company.

----

An interesting aspect of the law about trading stamps in England
is that each stamp must be redeemable for cash and each stamp
must have a cash value upon it, expressed in terms of the
currency of the land.

In practice, the value of the cash that one can obtain is less
than the value of the redemption merchandise for which the stamps
could otherwise be exchanged.

For example, at the Mobil station where I regularly fill up my
car they used to give Green Shield stamps, which had a cash value
of .39p stated upon them.  That is, 0.39 of a penny.  (English
currency is in pounds, with each pound divided into 100 pence).
This seemed a strange amount to state, but it does work out that
a collection book full of 32 pages of 32 stamps (=1024 stamps)
has a cash redemption value of four pounds.  The value of the
redemption goods for such a book of stamps would be somewhat
more, though not hugely greater.

Until recently the Mobil station gave its own Mobil stamps with a
cash value of .001p upon them.  However, one could swap ten
stamps for a cassette tape of music and so on.  It looks as if
the equivalent retail value of the redemption merchandise
obtainable for each stamp is about 10p, namely ten thousand times
the cash redemption value.

Indeed, it is not only Mobil that has used the 0.001p cash value
on trading stamps, as I was given a voucher at a BP (British
Petroleum) station which also has .001p upon it.

Nowadays, Mobil hereabouts gives one a credit card sized plastic
card with a magnetic stripe upon it, upon which one point is
stored for each 10p worth of petrol that is purchased. Petrol is
2 pounds 33 pence a gallon here these days, but at least the
points on the card build up faster!  :-)
The scheme actually lets you go and get the redemption
merchandise at a certain chain of shops, with 500 points worth a
pound in redemption merchandise.  The cash value of the points
is, however, stated as .001p.  So, here the redemption
merchandise value is two hundred times the cash equivalent value.

Each of the old 'hardcopy' stamps were given out for spending six
pounds, but each of the new 'softcopy' points is given out for
spending 10p.

According to the law as I read it, it appears that an item is
only a trading stamp that comes within the Trading Stamps Act
1964 if the company producing the stamps and providing the
redemption merchandise is separate from the trader that actually
rewards customers by giving the stamps.  Thus, in some cases,
where one sees a stamp with such a cash equivalent upon it in
England, there is no legal requirement to state any sum at all.
Since, however, it is an easy thing to do, it is reasonable to
always do it, thereby avoiding needless problems.  Of course,
there may well be cases where a voucher is issued by, say,
British Petroleum, and it superficially looks like it is BP
giving the customer the voucher, because there are BP logos all
about the petrol station, but, in fact, the petrol station is
being operated by a separate business as a franchise.

In designing trading stamps for my idea of the software
broadcasting company, I realized that, although the cash value
that could be stated might be small, nevertheless the total value
of the money that would need to be set aside in case every stamp
was exchanged for cash might become quite large for a young
company if the idea took off.

Accordingly, I began to think in terms of minuscule sized cash
equivalent sums, such that the extreme case, of everybody in the
world all sending in lots of software, would be covered!

Now, of course, I am a realist and know that this just will not
happen.  I may well only get fifty or so authors, maybe more,
maybe less.  However, I gradually came to the choice of ten to
the power of minus fifteen of one penny being a suitable figure.
Various considerations came into this, chiefly because the SI
units prefix for ten to the power of minus fifteen is femto and I
like the sound of "one femtopenny" and because this would be
represented by 1fp and, set in a flowing italic script, would
look typographically attractive.

This has led to other thoughts.  For example, how many atoms of
gold would 1fp buy?  Imagine, in a virtual reality scenario,
having a token dropped through the air towards your hand and it
sparkle as a swirling galaxy of as many golden suns as this
number of atoms of gold!

The existence of a sort of token currency system at the bottom of
such a vast financial well is interesting.  For example, normal
arithmetic can still apply, in that
2fp + 3fp = 5fp
just as
2p + 3p = 5p
in normal currency.  It is only when transactions that involve
some link between the tokens and real currency occur that the
exchange rate needs to be involved.

----

It is part of the design for the company that all software
authors will retain their own copyright and merely licence their
work for being freely broadcast.  I am a great believer in checks
and balances in systems and feel that the always present
possibility of withdrawal of the permission to broadcast by
software authors will be a useful protection against the system
being abused.  Thus, the continued availability of software in
the knowledge base will be conditional upon a consensus of
agreement that the system is being used properly.

----

In my planned virtual reality of such a company, called the
Telesoftware Institute, I envisage that, by leaving the foyer to
the west, onto the west lawn and then turning to the north, one
starts to follow a footpath which, if followed all the way, leads
eventually to an arboretum, which contains, as well as other
trees, a collection of deciduous conifers.

Off to the north east, behind the main building is a formal
garden.  It is paved with pavements in the pattern of the rete of
an astrolabe, with a specimen Davidia Involucrata tree at each
star point.  The rete of an astrolabe, in cyan upon a red
background, being the symbol of telesoftware.

Off to the west is a replica of a third world school.  It is
powered by a combination of batteries and a solar electricity
system.  There is a satellite reception dish which points up in a
vaguely southerly direction.  Inside the school building, the
classroom is set out so as to provide a working demonstration of
how telesoftware could be used for education in the developing
world.

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Will Overington
Department of Electrical, Electronic and Systems Engineering,
Coventry Polytechnic,
Priory Street,
Coventry CV1 5FB,
England.
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Virtual reality might be a substitute for the real thing, or it
may just help it happen!
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Will Overington <esz001@cck.coventry.ac.uk> (05/22/91)

Readers may remember that I am theorising about the setting up of
a company that would broadcast educational software.  The idea is
that all educational software submitted to the company, provided
that it was to the stated format, would be accepted for
broadcasting.  A person submitting such software to the company
would be issued with a token, a sort of trading stamp issued by
the company.  Collectors of the tokens could receive redemption
merchandise in exchange for the tokens.  This is intended to
provide an exchange rate mechanism so that there is no need to
artificially set quotas of how much software can be accepted from
software authors.  The redemption merchandise is intended to
include educational materials and, if the law permits, shares in
the company.

----

An interesting aspect of the law about trading stamps in England
is that each stamp must be redeemable for cash and each stamp
must have a cash value upon it, expressed in terms of the
currency of the land.

In practice, the value of the cash that one can obtain is less
than the value of the redemption merchandise for which the stamps
could otherwise be exchanged.

For example, at the Mobil station where I regularly fill up my
car they used to give Green Shield stamps, which had a cash value
of .39p stated upon them.  That is, 0.39 of a penny.  (English
currency is in pounds, with each pound divided into 100 pence).
This seemed a strange amount to state, but it does work out that
a collection book full of 32 pages of 32 stamps (=1024 stamps)
has a cash redemption value of four pounds.  The value of the
redemption goods for such a book of stamps would be somewhat
more, though not hugely greater.

Until recently the Mobil station gave its own Mobil stamps with a
cash value of .001p upon them.  However, one could swap ten
stamps for a cassette tape of music and so on.  It looks as if
the equivalent retail value of the redemption merchandise
obtainable for each stamp is about 10p, namely ten thousand times
the cash redemption value.

Indeed, it is not only Mobil that has used the 0.001p cash value
on trading stamps, as I was given a voucher at a BP (British
Petroleum) station which also has .001p upon it.

Nowadays, Mobil hereabouts gives one a credit card sized plastic
card with a magnetic stripe upon it, upon which one point is
stored for each 10p worth of petrol that is purchased. Petrol is
2 pounds 33 pence a gallon here these days, but at least the
points on the card build up faster!  :-)
The scheme actually lets you go and get the redemption
merchandise at a certain chain of shops, with 500 points worth a
pound in redemption merchandise.  The cash value of the points
is, however, stated as .001p.  So, here the redemption
merchandise value is two hundred times the cash equivalent value.

Each of the old 'hardcopy' stamps were given out for spending six
pounds, but each of the new 'softcopy' points is given out for
spending 10p.

According to the law as I read it, it appears that an item is
only a trading stamp that comes within the Trading Stamps Act
1964 if the company producing the stamps and providing the
redemption merchandise is separate from the trader that actually
rewards customers by giving the stamps.  Thus, in some cases,
where one sees a stamp with such a cash equivalent upon it in
England, there is no legal requirement to state any sum at all.
Since, however, it is an easy thing to do, it is reasonable to
always do it, thereby avoiding needless problems.  Of course,
there may well be cases where a voucher is issued by, say,
British Petroleum, and it superficially looks like it is BP
giving the customer the voucher, because there are BP logos all
about the petrol station, but, in fact, the petrol station is
being operated by a separate business as a franchise.

In designing trading stamps for my idea of the software
broadcasting company, I realized that, although the cash value
that could be stated might be small, nevertheless the total value
of the money that would need to be set aside in case every stamp
was exchanged for cash might become quite large for a young
company if the idea took off.

Accordingly, I began to think in terms of minuscule sized cash
equivalent sums, such that the extreme case, of everybody in the
world all sending in lots of software, would be covered!

Now, of course, I am a realist and know that this just will not
happen.  I may well only get fifty or so authors, maybe more,
maybe less.  However, I gradually came to the choice of ten to
the power of minus fifteen of one penny being a suitable figure.
Various considerations came into this, chiefly because the SI
units prefix for ten to the power of minus fifteen is femto and I
like the sound of "one femtopenny" and because this would be
represented by 1fp and, set in a flowing italic script, would
look typographically attractive.

This has led to other thoughts.  For example, how many atoms of
gold would 1fp buy?  Imagine, in a virtual reality scenario,
having a token dropped through the air towards your hand and it
sparkle as a swirling galaxy of as many golden suns as this
number of atoms of gold!

The existence of a sort of token currency system at the bottom of
such a vast financial well is interesting.  For example, normal
arithmetic can still apply, in that
2fp + 3fp = 5fp
just as
2p + 3p = 5p
in normal currency.  It is only when transactions that involve
some link between the tokens and real currency occur that the
exchange rate needs to be involved.

----

It is part of the design for the company that all software
authors will retain their own copyright and merely licence their
work for being freely broadcast.  I am a great believer in checks
and balances in systems and feel that the always present
possibility of withdrawal of the permission to broadcast by
software authors will be a useful protection against the system
being abused.  Thus, the continued availability of software in
the knowledge base will be conditional upon a consensus of
agreement that the system is being used properly.

----

In my planned virtual reality of such a company, called the
Telesoftware Institute, I envisage that, by leaving the foyer to
the west, onto the west lawn and then turning to the north, one
starts to follow a footpath which, if followed all the way, leads
eventually to an arboretum, which contains, as well as other
trees, a collection of deciduous conifers.

Off to the north east, behind the main building is a formal
garden.  It is paved with pavements in the pattern of the rete of
an astrolabe, with a specimen Davidia Involucrata tree at each
star point.  The rete of an astrolabe, in cyan upon a red
background, being the symbol of telesoftware.

Off to the west is a replica of a third world school.  It is
powered by a combination of batteries and a solar electricity
system.  There is a satellite reception dish which points up in a
vaguely southerly direction.  Inside the school building, the
classroom is set out so as to provide a working demonstration of
how telesoftware could be used for education in the developing
world.

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Will Overington
Department of Electrical, Electronic and Systems Engineering,
Coventry Polytechnic,
Priory Street,
Coventry CV1 5FB,
England.
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Virtual reality might be a substitute for the real thing, or it
may just help it happen!
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kilian@sequoia.cray.com (Alan Kilian) (05/24/91)

Will Overington asks:

> This has led to other thoughts.  For example, how many atoms of
> gold would 1fp buy?  Imagine, in a virtual reality scenario,
> having a token dropped through the air towards your hand and it
> sparkle as a swirling galaxy of as many golden suns as this
> number of atoms of gold!

I liked this problem so I thought I would have a go at it.

Given: Gold costs $500.00 US an ounce (Or there abouts)

Given: An ounce is 29 grams (Or there abouts)

Therefore: gold costs $17 US per gram

Given: 1 mole of gold weighs 197 grams. This is 6x10^23 atoms of gold.

Therefore: 1 gram is 3x10^21 atoms of gold.

Given: 1fp (FemtoPennyUS) is 1x10^-15 penny 

Therefore: 1fp buys 6x10^-16 grams of gold

Therefore: 6x10^-16 grams of gold at 6x10^23 atoms per gram is 1.8x10^7 atoms

Cool 18 million atoms of gold.

Now this is an _Order-of-magnitude_ solution so please don't pick on the
price of gold or the number of grams in a troy ounce unless I am off by
enough to cause my answer to be wrong by more than an order of magnitude.

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