hans@lfcs.ed.ac.uk (Hans Huttel) (01/16/90)
- before this newsgroup degenerates to alt.flame MK II I want to introduce another, (and I hope) less destructive topic. What else do you listen to, besides /\/\etal ? I got into metal relatively late. When punk and new wave finally reached Denmark around 1981 I became interested in rock music at a more serious level and I began listening to bands such as The Jam, The Clash, Echo & The Bunnymen, Simple Minds, Depeche Mode, U2, Joy Division/New Order etc. (i.e. mainly `British gloom') For a while I was also quite fond of Talking Heads, and a year ago or so a kind soul mentioned REM in my presence. Punk also indirectly introduced me to reggae. As for mteal, I felt for a long time that metal was a relic from the early 70s, music with played by old men. My interest in metal began when I moved to Britain in 1988 and discovered thrash/hardcore. By that time I felt that most of the interesting bands of the early-to-mid 80s were now heavily commercial, starting to became to a new generation of dinosaurs, not unlike the dinosaurs that punk tried to overthrow. The UK `indie' scene circa 1990 is uninspired and uninspiring. Stone Roses, House of Love, Wedding Present etc. - nothing to write home about. The `goth' bands (The Mission, Sisters of Mercy etc.) are/were just doing the old Led Zeppelin stuff one more time. (If you ask me, I'd say that the last interesting new band was Jesus & Mary Chain.) Thrash has the best of punk circa Dead Kennedys: It's fast, it has political/weird/you-name-it lyrics, there's slamdancing and stagediving at gigs. And it's about the only really controversial kind of music left today ! I still don't listen to `mainstream metal' a whole lot. One exception is The Cult, I guess that is because they happen to be an old Joy Division-style `gloom' band from the mid-80s... Another exception is Living Colour (one of the most intelligent & ARSE-kicking bands around IMHO). 70s bands such as Judas Priest, Iron Maiden etc. don't mean an awful lot to me. Nor do the pretty-boy US types or the appalling Guns'n'Poses. I still listen to all the punk/new wave stuff. I also listen to reggae, `world music', and classical music (Schoenberg, Mahler, Ravel, Satie). I think it's important to listen to different kinds of music so that you don't become some intolerant idiot who spends his/her time muttering that `there hasn't been a good band since...' or `why can't they play songs like ...' BUT this is January 1990 and thrash and hardcore (Anthrax, Bad Brains, Metallica, Nuclear Assault, VoiVod etc. etc.) are heavily represented in my record collection (PUN!!! - please laugh) `cos that's where it's at now. I just hope thrash won't produce too many dinosaurs (though it probably will). And I hope the DIY spirit of punk & hardcore doesn't drown in loads of 70s-inspired pointless fingerboard masturbation a la Malmsteen... BTW, I was also disappointed when some people walked out at a recent Bad Brains gig in Glasgow when the Brains did a reggae song. OK, enough intellectual rubbish for now! Now I'd like to hear from YOU. What else do you listen to besides metal ????? Send me a reply by e-mail instead of posting and I will post a summary in a week or two ! "I'm caught in a mosh" Hans | Hans H\"{u}ttel, Office 1603 JANET: hans@uk.ac.ed.lfcs | LFCS, Dept. of Computer Science UUCP: ..!mcvax!ukc!lfcs!hans | University of Edinburgh ARPA: hans%lfcs.ed.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk | Edinburgh EH9 3JZ, SCOTLAND ... Ain't gonna work on Maggie's farm no more!
miller@hpscdc.scd.hp.com (Phil Miller) (01/17/90)
You say you like Heavy Metal and want to try other styles of
music but are afraid of wimping-out? Well...... try:
Muddy Waters or Howlin Wolf: Singers with more power and gusto
than anyone in metal.
John Coltrane: His saxophone playing is more adventurous and
creative than any metal gutairist. His drummer,
Elvin Jones, is by far more incendiary and relentless
than any metal drummer.
W. A. Mozart: His music can keep a "mind rush" -- or whatever you
want to call it (isn't this why you listen to metal
anyways?) -- going longer than any _YOUR METAL BAND'S
NAME HERE_ jam. Mozart is especially effective in the
car whilst jetting about busy errands.
Unfortunately, all of the above are dead ('cept for Jones). But
if yall keep playing that racket, so 'll you. :-)
PhilNESMITH@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Mr. Scary) (01/18/90)
What else do I listen to? Sounds better than why Gene is an Asshole. Thats already established. For some reason, I like just about everything Billy Joel does. I also like Tom Petty's new one. I like Mozart once and a while. Old police is pretty good. I also like a lot of Beatles. A friend of mine is crazy about them and I have sort of picked up on it. I like some various stuff on the radio, but not too much. But the one thing that I can't hardly listen to is rap. Don't really know what it is, but I can't stand most of it. I do think I Think I Can Beat Mike Tyson is funny though. Since there were only a couple of complaints against my .sig and no one responded to my post, I have decided to use it. You had your chance. Voting is closed. RRRRRR R R R R O K K K K E N R R O O K K K K E E N N N RRRRR O O K K K K E E NN N R R O O KK KK EEEEEEE N N R R O O KKK KKK E N N R R O O K KK K KK E EE N N R RR O K K K K EE N NN ========================== K ====== K ===================== Darrin W. NeSmith K K nesmith@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu K K
borovkd@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (Damian Borovka) (01/18/90)
Well, i for one am not a "straight metalhead" - i listen to a pretty
wide range of music - among my favorites are Green River, Einsturzende
Neubauten,Big Black, Cat Butt, Mudhoney, and Sonic Youth. And if you
are a big metal fan looking for other stuff, i cannot recommend strongly
enough GREEN RIVER - this band is awesome (and broken up :-( ) - they
have put out 3 albums; Come On DOwn (on homestead),l and Dry As Bone and
Rehab Doll (on Subpop) - listen to dry as a bone, and hear som eof the most
driving, intense rock you'll ever hear (baby takes and this town in part-
icular). If you like them, check out anything on subpop - you wont
regret it. As far as new metal goes, check out the Melvins on Boner Records
- their new album is called Ozma - it's slow, but really heavy and crushing.
I also listen to alot of punk and hardcore (though mostly on my local radio,
so i'm not very conversant with individual bands - although Poison Idea
and NoMeansNo are worth checking out). Anyway, i can't come close to
describing all the different bands i listen to in a short message like
this, but anyone who wants to know more about any of this, feel free to
reply...be warned, however, as far as my metal taste goes, i'm primarily
into thrash and speed metal (esp. Slayer & Metallica), and i somewhat
dislike "heh-Vee Fuckin' Metal" like kiss and G'n'R (IMveryHO poseurs)
later, yalls
damian
borovkd@jacobs.cs.orst.edu
"Scream, Motherfucker, SCREEAAM!" - Steve Albiniking@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca (Stephen King) (01/20/90)
In article <11470002@hpscdc.scd.hp.com> miller@hpscdc.scd.hp.com (Phil Miller) writes: > > John Coltrane: His saxophone playing is more adventurous and > creative than any metal gutairist. Yeah, I'll go for that, but Coltrane is a very hard person to listen to when one doesn't have a really well developed love for/understanding of jazz. A better place to start might be with Miles Davis, perhaps the 'Kind of Blue' recording. Or, for those who prefer more peaceful melodic stuff, any Dave Brubeck album with Paul Desmond on it would do. And of course, the Bird. But don't overlook Cannonball Adderly, Dizzy Gillespie, Zoot Simms, or any of the great drummers; Buddy Rich, Art Blakey, Louie Bellson, Gene Kruppa, to name but a few. Rock fans may find Stanley Turrentine's sax easier to comprehend, as his is a rocky sort of jazz, although sometimes a little sleepy.