[bit.listserv.ibmtcp-l] Administrative TCP/IP suvey for sites with IBM mainframes.

CCSJLM@UWOCC1.UWO.CA (John McFadden) (02/06/90)

The University of Western Ontario is currently having a difficult time coming
to a landing on the role of TCP/IP vs the role of SNA in our Administrative
environment. As a result I have been asked to send out the following
questionnaire to determine how other universities perceive the situation.
Please answer any or all questions or just send me your general comments
regarding the basic questions - What role does TCP/IP have for administrative
users and what is then the role of SNA?  Thanks in advance.


                 UNIVERSITY SURVEY

a. Do you have a document on campus communication strategies?
   Are you willing to share it?

b. How are the following connected to your admin and academic mainframes?

   Terminals?
   Micros?
   LANS?
   Backbones?
   Departmental systems?
   Other mainframes?
   Off campus connections?

c. What is a rough breakdown of the items in question two.  (ie. For micros,
   what percent is PC, APPLES, SUNS, other)

d. What hardware does your admin computing?

e. What operating systems do you admin computing?

f. Do you have a single campus backbone for both academic and admin users?
   If not, list reasons. Otherwise answer the following subquestions?

   What protocols are supported on the backbone?
   What administrative mainframe services are offered via the backbone? (ie.
    virtual terminal, file transfer, NFS, remote procedure calls)
   Do you plan to develop or purchase administrative applications to take
   advantage of TCP/IP functions?
   Do you charge for backbone connection and/or services?
   Do you provide a front end menu for users coming in via the backbone?
   How is the backbone controlled and managed. (ie. configuration, problem
    determination, capacity planning, etc)?
   How do you provide security for backbone connections?
    (ie. accept risk, data encryption, point in time passwords, network block)
   Is your security based on userid and password? Does physical location have
    a role?
   Do you monitor what is connected to your backbone for security exposures?
   Do you audit access via the backbone?  Are exceptions predefined such that
    they can be detected and acted upon?

g. Do you plan to replace SNA with TCP/IP or do you see it as a parallel
   platform?   (ie. on Admin systems)

h. How important is SNA to your administrtive systems.  Will LU6.2 be a
   future concern?

i. Do you run office automation on administrative mainframes?  If so why? If
   not then why not?

j. Do you have a administrative TCP/IP mainframe connection or plan for one in
   the near future?  If so what functions do you intend to support?

k. Do you have any plans for OSI? Is it likely to replace SNA?

l. Have you established any strategies or guidelines for administrative lans?
   If so are you prepared to share them?

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HAVE A GOOD DAY!

Yours sincerely                University of Western Ontario
                               Computer and Communication Services
                               Administrative Technical Support Manager
John L. McFadden               Room 16, Stevenson Lawson Building
                               Richmond Street North
                               London, Ontario
                               Canada, N6A 5B8

                               Phone  (519-661-2024)
                               Bitnet (CCSJLM@UWOCC1.UWO.CA)

gruber@ANDY.BGSU.EDU (John Gruber) (02/06/90)

	                 UNIVERSITY SURVEY

	a. Do you have a document on campus communication strategies?
	   Are you willing to share it?
Yes; Yes, just send me e-mail (with
your postal address, or I can send you a postscript file printable on a
LaserWriter.

	b. How are the following connected to your admin and academic mainframes?
	Admin.   Acad.
	   Terminals?
Coax star-wired  Line drivers star-wired and LANS
	   Micros?
Same             Same
	   LANS?
None conn.	Pronet-10 backbone
	   Backbones?
	Pronet-10 connects to all mainframes except major admin. mainframe
Other mainframes are shared use.
	   Departmental systems?
Backbone&line drivers     Backbone
	   Other mainframes?
None		None
	   Off campus connections?
	Backbone

	c. What is a rough breakdown of the items in question two.  (ie. For micros,
	   what percent is PC, APPLES, SUNS, other)
45% 55% .1% .01%

	d. What hardware does your admin computing?
IBM 4381P94, mostly. Administrators can use other mainframes too. CICS and
administrative batch run on the 4381.

	e. What operating systems do you admin computing?
MVS/SP going to ESA

	f. Do you have a single campus backbone for both academic and admin users?
Yes. Considering adding last mainframe (4381. Administrative users can
 generallyuse other systems too. Academic users can use 4381. We are linking
 e-mail on
4381 CICS to our other e-mail systems and to the Internet and Bitnet).
	   If not, list reasons. Otherwise answer the following subquestions?

	   What protocols are supported on the backbone?
TCP/IP
	   What administrative mainframe services are offered via the backbone? (ie.
	    virtual terminal, file transfer, NFS, remote procedure calls)
TCP/IP suite--Telnet ftp smtp nfs finger whois talk, etc.
	   Do you plan to develop or purchase administrative applications to take
	   advantage of TCP/IP functions?
Not at this time.
	   Do you charge for backbone connection and/or services?
No.
	   Do you provide a front end menu for users coming in via the backbone?
No.
	   How is the backbone controlled and managed. (ie. configuration, problem
	    determination, capacity planning, etc)?
Centrally, by UCS (us).
	   How do you provide security for backbone connections?
	    (ie. accept risk, data encryption, point in time passwords, network block)
No special provisions used. Suggest that you use different physical networks
for different uses and consider using separate network numbers to allow you
to use network filtering of more sensitive networks on selective routers.
Password protect logins on all hosts and ftp's, here. Other risks are simply
accepted. We advise clients on password selection and other precautions.
	   Is your security based on userid and password? Does physical location have
	    a role?
Physical location no longer used as security descriminator, generally.
	   Do you monitor what is connected to your backbone for security exposures?
No. Backbone is still rather small.
	   Do you audit access via the backbone?  Are exceptions predefined such that
	    they can be detected and acted upon?
No.

	g. Do you plan to replace SNA with TCP/IP or do you see it as a parallel
	   platform?   (ie. on Admin systems)
We don't use SNA except in special case between, for example, channel attached
3174 and mainframe. No SNA crosses serial lines or LANS. We treat Decnet
the same way. TCP/IP is our standard.

	h. How important is SNA to your administrtive systems.  Will LU6.2 be a
	   future concern?
Not important. If we have to use LU 6.2 sometime in the future we will consider
it.

	i. Do you run office automation on administrative mainframes?  If so why? If
	   not then why not?
Putting up office automation system (excluding word processing) on our
CICS system.

	j. Do you have a administrative TCP/IP mainframe connection or plan for one in
	   the near future?  If so what functions do you intend to support?
We might add 4381 to our backbone in the future. It is currently connected
to other machines with a RSCS type connection.

	k. Do you have any plans for OSI? Is it likely to replace SNA?
It's likely eventually to replace TCP/IP. SNA is relatively unimportant to us.

	l. Have you established any strategies or guidelines for administrative lans?
	   If so are you prepared to share them?
We want to be able to connect them to our backbone. Some office don't care
about this and are free to do their own thing.

My phone number is (419) 372-2911.

Good luck. Let me know if you want me to send you a copy of our network
plan.