XVDHMAK@VCUVM1 (Michael Kline) (01/12/90)
The purpose of witchcraft is to obtain the spiritual "power". The
"good" witches use it to help people. That sounds good, but it's the power
they use that is "bad". Even if one can "make" demonic spirits do what they
want, what difference does that make? If someone uses the power of God to
cure people and the like, then they are not a witch, but a Christian.
Now, what is that power for? To get rich? To curse a bad person to make
them leave a good person alone? Normally not. While there was a story of a
witches coven that healed an astronaut, they are not normally into that.
They use their power to manipulate. From what I've heard, this is where the
problem is, the manipulation, the "I want so I conjure". Even if it were a
very small thing a witch were to do some type of voodoo for, the plain fact
of conjuring, for what ever is asking someone (or something) other than
God. That person is placing that source, what ever it is, above God. I
think this is what would anger God.
They might be quite nice as people, but the Bible plainly tells us to
avoid speaking with other spirits, and that our God is a jealous God and
will not share His Glory.
Something else, maybe. I've been around a great deal of healers, great
teachers and the like, and yes we have the exception like Jim and Tammy
Baker, the ones I see, when something truly WONDERFUL happens will say,
"Don't thank me, thank Jesus." Hopefully y'all have seen this yourself. Who
do the witches talk about? Do they say, "Don't thank me, thank Satan" or
"Don't thank me, thank Merlin" or do they say, "You're very welcome."
(After all *I* did that for you.)
This morning Ed Cole was talking again, and said anything carried to
the extreme becomes error. Taking something to the extreme is perversion and
perversion is not of God.
I was once told that good was an extension of God meaning to be like
God, giving, etc. If that were the case, witches would not be good, but if
you want, I guess we could say that witches might be "good", but that they
are not Godly.
As an exercise, could you post some stuff from Mere Christianity and
for those that have the scriptures, let's post some of them.
Sort of as a sidenote on witches. There was Napoleon, Hitler, and the
other great "evil" dictators, who may or may not have been "blessed" by
Satan. I can't think of any of them that lived in Glory that didn't die a
horrible death or "lived in peace" all of their days. Is my memory failing
or am I right? I know there have been Christian martyrs, but they go on to
eternal life. What does the "un" Christian have to look forward to?
I don't think Christianity is an easy life, but I sort of like Paul who
said "Woe to me if I don't do it(live it)". There was this person that had
a masters degree in just about every theology there was. He was a born
again Christian and thought to be one of the most intelligent Christians
around. Some reporters were asking him, "In all your years of education and
obtaining all your degrees, what is the most 'outstanding' truth you would
want to share with your fellow believers?" He told them the following:
Jesus loves me,
This I know,
For the Bible tells me so.
Little ones to Him belong,
They are weak,
But He is strong.
Has anyone heard a similar story?
In His Love,
Michael A. Kline, Sr. SSE
VDH, Technical Support
(804)786-1559
XVDHMAK at VCUVM1XVDHMAK@VCUVM1 (Michael Kline) (01/13/90)
I logged on last night with 69 files and got blown off our system.
When I logged on this morning, I had 28 files. I think this note
might have been lost in what ever happened here so I am sending
it again.
The purpose of witchcraft is to obtain the spiritual "power". The
"good" witches use it to help people. That sounds good, but it's the power
they use that is "bad". Even if one can "make" demonic spirits do what they
want, what difference does that make?
Now, what is that power for? To get rich? To curse a bad person to make
them leave a good person alone? Normally not. While there was a story of a
witches coven that healed an astronaut, they are not normally into that.
They use their power to manipulate. From what I've heard, this is where the
problem is, the manipulation, the "I want so I conjure". Even if it were a
very small thing a witch were to do some type of voodoo for, the plain fact
of conjuring, for what ever is asking someone (or something) other than
God. That person is placing that source, what ever it is, above God. I
think this is what would anger God.
They might be quite nice as people, but the Bible plainly tells us to
avoid speaking with other spirits, and that our God is a jealous God and
will not share His Glory.
Something else, maybe. I've been around a great deal of healers, great
teachers and the like, and yes we have the exception like Jim and Tammy
Baker, the ones I see, when something truly WONDERFUL happens will say,
"Don't thank me, thank Jesus." Hopefully y'all have seen this yourself. Who
do the witchs talk about? Do they say, "Don't thank me, thank Satan" or
"Don't thank me, thank Merlin" or do they say, "You're very welcome."
(After all I did that for you.)
This morning Ed Cole was talking again, and said anything carried to
the extreme becomes evil. Taking something to the extreme is perversion and
perversion is not of God.
I was once told that good was an extension of God meaning to be like
God, giving, etc. If that were the case, witches would not be good, but if
you want, I guess we could say that witches might be "good", but that they
are not Godly.
As an exercise, could you post some stuff from Mere Christianity and
for those that have the scriptures, let's post some of them.
Sort of as a sidenote on witches. There was Napoleon, Hitler, and the
other great "evil" dictators, who may or may not have been "blessed" by
Satan. I can't think of any of them that lived in Glory that didn't die a
horrible death or "lived in peace" all of their days. Is my memory failing
or am I right? I know there have been Christian martyrs, but they go on to
eternal life. What does the "un" Christian have to look forward to?
I don't think Christianity is an easy life, but I sort of like Paul who
said "Woe to me if I don't do it(live it)". There was this person that had
a masters degree in just about every theology there was. He was a born
again Christian and thought to be one of the most intelligent Christians
around. Some reporters were asking him, "In all your years of education and
obtaining all your degrees, what is the most 'outstanding' truth you would
want to share with your fellow believers?" He told them the following:
Jesus loves me,
This I know,
For the Bible tells me so.
Little ones to Him belong,
They are weak,
But He is strong.
Has anyone heard a similar story?
In His Love,
Michael A. Kline, Sr. SSE
VDH, Technical Support
(804)786-1559
XVDHMAK at VCUVM1