EWS2304@TAMVENUS (01/15/90)
The peace symbol as shown below is not for PEACE. It is from satan and
has long been used in the practice of satan worship. What this
represents is an upside-down cross and satan uses that symbol to mean
that what Jesus did on the croos was useless. Satan is allways trying to
put down what God did and the upside-down broken croos has been a
satanic symbol for many years. It does not mean peace.
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Eric.JIM@AUVM (Jim McIntosh) (01/17/90)
In article <CHRISTIA%90011619022269@FINHUTC>, EWS2304@TAMVENUS says: >The peace symbol as shown below is not for PEACE. It is from satan and >has long been used in the practice of satan worship. What this >represents is an upside-down cross and satan uses that symbol to mean >that what Jesus did on the croos was useless. Satan is allways trying to >put down what God did and the upside-down broken croos has been a >satanic symbol for many years. It does not mean peace. Symbols mean whatever you want them to mean. They hold no value in themselves except for that which the user imparts into them. A cross can be a Christian symbol or it can be a pagan symbol. A "peace" symbol can represent peace or it can represent war. It all depends on what meaning it has for you. ------- Jim McIntosh (JIM@AUVM) The American University Washington DC 20016 USA
DEVOSCM@RUG.NL (Marco de Vos, Kapteyn Lab Groningen) (01/17/90)
>The peace symbol as shown below is not for PEACE. It is from satan and >has long been used in the practice of satan worship. What this >represents is an upside-down cross and satan uses that symbol to mean >that what Jesus did on the croos was useless. Satan is allways trying to >put down what God did and the upside-down broken croos has been a >satanic symbol for many years. It does not mean peace. > >Eric. I don't know wether the upside-down-cross has been or is being used in the practice of satan worship (I have seen no response on the questions asking for response, but my node has been down, so I may have missed them). However, there is quite convincing evidence (in the tradition of the church) that Petrus asked to be crucified on an upside-down-cross. He did that for he felt unworthy of dying the same dead as his Lord. It was then not meant as a symbol that what Jesus did was useless. Now I can well imagine that certain groups of people used an upside-down cross to symbolise the uselessnes (in their opinion) of the cross. I do have some problems interpreting the Petrus-cross in terms of peace, for I don't see a direct connection. However, the question I would like to see answered is: ??? Does the current use of the encircled-upside-down-cross come from the Petrus-cross or from satanic movements or whatever. And if the latter would be the case, how important should it be for us. I could well imagine that certain people started using the cross as a symbol for something very obscure and wicked (remeber the KKK). Would that influence those of you who use the symbol of the cross somehow? Bill, I your first letter about this subject you said this symbol meant a lot for you for certain reasons. Would you mind explaining those reasons, and the things it means for you. (I don't have you original posting, so forgive me if I have been left with a wrong expression of what you said.) By the way, it's of course pretty useless to use a symbol for a non-existing situation. I mean, Jesus dead on the cross wasn't useless, so whatever Satan may say about it, is of no relevance. If someone would say the symbol of the (upside-down-or-whatever-)cross means Jesus died in vain, that would be really turning things upside down. A symbol (literal translation is "thrown together") eases understanding some concept of reality. If that concept is non-existing or wrong, the symbol can never bring it into existence or make it right. Formally speaking, it isn't even a symbol in that case, just some drawing. (I'm open to further discussion on the meaning of symbols, I'm not sure my interpretation is correct.) In His Love, Marco.
UJCCPC@UNC (01/17/90)
> The peace symbol as shown below is not for PEACE. My wife and I are celebrating 20 years together. We met as a result of the November 15, 1969 anti-war march in Washington, D.C., in which thousands of Christians and other concerned citizens came together to speak out against what we saw as immoral. I was 15 years old and it was a trip that changed my life. I went with a church group, led by my minister, and we stayed at a black church somewhere downtown. On the wall of the church was a banner stating "Blessed are the Peacemakers, for they shall be called the sons of God." I had never heard that. EVer since it has been written on my heart. For me and many thousands, this will ALWAYS be a symbol of peace. May we all one day be able to claim to be peacemakers. John Cromartie ....... > . . . > . . . > . . . > . . . > . ... . > . . . . . > . . . . . > .. . .. > .......