[bit.listserv.christia] An opinion I respect

PDBROYLES@OWUCOMCN (The Golden Rule: He who has all the Gold makes the rules.) (02/09/90)

>    Correct me if I'm reading you wrong.  Basically you are rejecting the relig
>ion that believes Christ was human?

Basically, yes.  Christ was the God nature within Jesus as I have grown
understand it.

>That he is an ideal.  A symbol?  Something
>like perhaps Santa Claus.  You know what I mean.  Like we all feel Santa Claus
>is an acceptable idea because he gives gifts in love to those who are good; you
>perhaps feel Christianity is along the line that if we all just love each other
>alot we are Christian and saved.

ummmmmmmm. This is a tricky little point, because Love is the key element,
but according to the modern interpretation of Christianity, I would have
to say no.  If you changed it to say that a Christian showed perfect love
or tried to then I would have to agree, as it is the modern interpretation
says that you have to accept JC as your personal savior to be a Christian.
I says that you have to put full faith in Him, and His sacrafice---Love
comes second under this understanding.  Under this understanding, only
"Christians" have a monopoly on Love because people like Gandhi don't know
Christ and therefore cannot show true love...

>Do you think that the story of Christ is a Parable?

No, I do believe that he did exist, but I have trouble excepting every
word the Bible says he said as Law.  Actually, a more accurate way of
putting it would be to say that I have trouble accepting the modern
translation/interpretation of what he said as Law.

>And that all religions are valid if they are based on love.

No to this point to, but it is not far off.  "God is Love," Christianity
is based on Love.  Buddhism is not based on Love per se but the end result
is that the Buddhist comes out displaying love more so than many
Christians.  I have trouble with this statement because religions are not
inherently good or evil, its what they are used for and what they do that
brings doubts to my mind.  Christianity has a lot to offer, but it's
practitioners have corrupted much of the truth found therein.

>Not everyon
>e who claims to be Christian is {as full of love and)[I accidently
>deleted the original words] rightous as they should be.

I agree, if they were then Christianity would have conquored the world by
now, but as it is...

>I am sorry you
>have seen the dark side of people and judged Christ for it.

I don't judge Christ for it.  I no longer accept the religion built around
his name, but let me stress this point, it is the religion that I reject
not Christ himself.  I feel that the religion has strayed from the
intended purpose of Christ.

>Christ is the same
>as he has always been.  It is us who have grown away from him and more sinful.

I agree one hundred percent.

>If asked, many people will] tell you they are Christian.

I probably would say the same reluctantly so to, but with MAJOR reservations.

>Please talk to me again.

Bernice, YOU in particular do not have to ask me to talk to you again.
Your messages towards me, epitimize what I respect in Christianity.  You
disagree with me, but you respect my opinions.  If there were more
Christians out there like you...

 >                               Bernice

                                        paul

U1A9A@WVNVM (Bernice Tennant) (02/09/90)

Paul,
     Please do something for me.  You believe in God.  You believe in the Holy
Ghost.  You believe in Christ, but not as we do.  Please take a little time to
seek the ultimate truth.  Please go to prayer with God and ask him to send to
you the power of the Holy Ghost and end your prayer in Jesus name.  Then take
up the New Testament when you feel God wants you to and read it in the Spirit.
Do this with out any thoughts but what you are reading.  With the power of  God
as your guide come back to us and talk again.  Let the rest of us pray that you
will know without a doubt the truth about Christ and exactly how he was and is
and ever will be.

                                      Love Bernice

C009GARY@UTARLVM1 (Gary Samek) (02/09/90)

>>perhaps feel Christianity is along the line that if we all just love each
>other
>>alot we are Christian and saved.
>
>ummmmmmmm. This is a tricky little point, because Love is the key element,
>but according to the modern interpretation of Christianity, I would have
>to say no.  If you changed it to say that a Christian showed perfect love
>or tried to then I would have to agree, as it is the modern interpretation
>says that you have to accept JC as your personal savior to be a Christian.
>I says that you have to put full faith in Him, and His sacrafice---Love
>comes second under this understanding.  Under this understanding, only
>"Christians" have a monopoly on Love because people like Gandhi don't know
>Christ and therefore cannot show true love...
>
> >                               Bernice
>
>                                        paul

I have come to believe that all love finds its roots from God.  Afterall, God
has poured out His Spirit on all flesh, not just christians.

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