[bit.listserv.christia] JMP - Why isn't everyone healed?

JMP@VMS.BRIGHTON.AC.UK (pharmacy John Pickett) (02/05/90)

>Date:     Fri, 2 Feb 90 17:35:00 CST
>From:     CATMAN <EWS2304@EARN.TAMVENUS>
>Subject:  Why isn't everyone healed?

>Since my post on healing I have received some replies about someone who
>wasn't healed. I too used to have the same question but I really feel
>God has given me the answer.

I get your point - I too believe nothing is too hard for the Lord - and
that He has given healing for those with faith. However we cannot heal
ourselves. I believe it is God working through us Who does the healing.
However, just one point:

Our sicknesses are not merely due to sin, although wihout sin we would not
have had any illness; they are more for the glory of God (see John 9:1-30).
The apostle Paul had a "thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment
me" (2 Corinthians 12:7-9). Three times he pleaded with the Lord to take it
away but He said "My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made
perfect in weakness." So Paul boasted gladly in his weaknesses, "so that
Christ's power may rest me."

I have multiple sclerosis and I have asked the Lord to heal me, but only if
it His will. Many times already have I known the Lord's strength through
my weakness - I'm not sure that I'd want to miss so rich a blessing. Of
course I'd rather not have MS - I used to like long walking treks through
the countyside and I'm hoping and praying for a remission so that I can do
so again this summer like last spring. I can walk but feel rather weak and
slow and can't walk far at the moment. Yes, I do want to be healed - but
what good thing the Lord has in store for me I do not know yet - so I just
leave it up to Him, Who is the only wise God my Saviour.

Whatever my pathway in this life may God be glorified in me.

Abiding in His Love,

John Pickett

PS  I have an appointment with my consultant neurologist tomorrow morning.
    Please pray for guidance to be given to us regarding any decisions that
    are made.

U1A9A@WVNVM (Bernice Tennant) (02/07/90)

John,
     I am praying for God to heal you also.  I hope everyone on the list prays
for you to be healed.  May your faith be strenghened and God be merciful so tha
t you will be healed to go on and give God the glory and be a living testimony
for him that more will be saved and share the kingdom with him. In Jesus name I
will ask these things.

                                        Your friend in Christ, Bernice

YOUNG@VM.EPAS.UTORONTO.CA (Abigail Young) (02/08/90)

I like John's point a lot.  I have always been bothered by the
implication in saying that God will heal anyone who prays for
healing in the right way.  It seems to blame to ill for their
illness, and to confuse God's power with his will.

The only way I can cope with 'the problem of pain,' with the
particular current manifestation of it in my life, that is, that
my mother is going blind, is by recourse to the wisdom of God.

Surely he acts out of his love and his wisdom, and I cannot always
expect to understand what better thing than bodily health he means
to work in her.  All I can do is trust him.

Yours in Christ,

Abigail

COLELA@SNYPLAVA (l. anne cole) (02/09/90)

Remember the man who had been blind from birth.  Jesus healed him.  And
he had to wait for Him.  It was not for any sin of his, but to demonstrate
the healing of God.  Have we all forgotten the CROSS?  Anne

U1A9A@WVNVM (Bernice Tennant) (02/09/90)

Anne,
     Did I miss something?  I don't understand your post.  Please explain.

                                  Your friend in Christ, Bernice

COLELA@SNYPLAVA (l. anne cole) (02/09/90)

Bernice,
I only meant that sometimes sickness is a part of our cross. ( Jesus
says many times - take up your cross and follow me. ) God
allows it to continue because that is part of the plan.  Some plans
include healing, some plans include sickness (sort of as part of
our job down here).  The blind man Jesus healed was blind in
anticipation of Jesus' eventual healing.  If someone came a few
years earlier and he was healed, it would have blown the demo for
Jesus.  If Job never had been sick, he wouldn't have come to personally
know God.  Hope this helps.
Anne

C009GARY@UTARLVM1 (Gary Samek) (02/09/90)

On Fri, 9 Feb 90 04:53:00 EST l. anne cole said:
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>Bernice,
>I only meant that sometimes sickness is a part of our cross. ( Jesus
>says many times - take up your cross and follow me. ) God
>allows it to continue because that is part of the plan.  Some plans
>include healing, some plans include sickness (sort of as part of
>our job down here).  The blind man Jesus healed was blind in
>anticipation of Jesus' eventual healing.  If someone came a few
>years earlier and he was healed, it would have blown the demo for
>Jesus.  If Job never had been sick, he wouldn't have come to personally
>know God.  Hope this helps.
>Anne

I have always considered healing to be a part of God's plan in reconciling the
world back to Him.  If I can be a much more effective example for God by being
sick and I felt that God ordained it, then I would not expect to be healed.
  Who leaves the more lasting impression on your mind, a man like my grand-
father who had leukemia, lung cancer, and 3 heart attack in the span of 10
years and still prayed and submitted himself joyfully to Jesus, or someone
like myself whose biggest problems have been a result of guilt and a lack of
discipline?  I think that the witness that my grandfather lived spoke in very
memorable and lasting ways.

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Gary Samek                  ****
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U1A9A@WVNVM (Bernice Tennant) (02/10/90)

Anne,
     I see your point, but Job already had a personal relationship with God
It was Satan's idea to cause Job all that grief to try to show that if Job
didn't have it so good he would turn away from God.  God told Satan to go ahead
and have his way with him (sending him tribulation) but not to harm him.  I
wish I was as good as a servant as Job was to God.  I would not like to be
tested as Job was though.  I am sure there are many reasons why we get sick.
I could cry everytime I think of my brother-in-law.  We will grieve him along
time.  He was only 43.  Thank God he had salvation and now he has no pain and
no sadness.  I am so thankful that God gave his son to pay for our sins and we
have a beautiful home waiting for us. Praise God!
                                  Your friend in Christ, Bernice