[bit.listserv.sas-l] No Review of SAS in InfoWorld

HAMER@VCUVAX.BITNET (ROBERT M. HAMER) (02/28/90)

In its February 26 issue, beginning on page 59, InfoWorld reviewed several
statistical software entities, namel, Minitab 7.1, SPSS/PC+ 3.1,
Statgraphics 4.0, Systat/Sysgraph 4.1.

They state in the introductory material (page 59),

"SAS Institute once again declined to
have us review SAS/PC (we evaluated the
package in our September 1, 1986,
roundup, but they did not participate in
the 1988 comparison).  SAS/PC is not
reviewed because the company insisited

on direct contact with the reviewer during
the review process.  The vendor claimed
that the degree of personal contact it has
with its users is so high that without this
contact, our review could not represent
the package fairly.  InfoWorld's policy is to
maintain reviewer anonymity to ensure
that the reviewer receives the same
treatment as a typical buyer would, and
we also prefer to ensure our Review
Board members are not lobbied by
vendors during the review process.  OUr
reviewer, who is experienced with SAS
products on multiple platforms, is fully
able to independently and competently
review the package.  Having reached this
impass, SAS declined to participate."



I typed this in without an editor (bad mistake) so any typos are mine.
Posted without comment.

CONJPM@UCSCVM.BITNET (Jim Mulherin) (03/01/90)

I think it is a clash of corporate cultures and regional cultures.  I
hope someone may be in a position to mediate it, because InfoWorld's
readers and potential SAS customers both lose because of this ongoing
impasse.

SAS is different than other stat package vendors.  SAS users really do
establish, use, and benefit greatly from an ongoing relationship with SI.
That is where SI is digging in its heels, insisting that the support
people get in using the product, fixing problems, etc., is key to their
product.

InfoWorld comes out of the almost anarchist Bay Area culture with a
strong sense of independence from the moguls of the mainframe way of
doing things.  (I have been a subscriber since the beginning when it
was a populist tabloid and would go off on all sorts on anti-bigness
crusades unrelated to computing....  Ah those were heady days!)  A
similar spirit of anti-bigness, anti-centralized computing dominates the
computing culture of the university where the reviewer works, UCSB,
another branch of the UC system where I work.

I think it might be worth our while, maybe through BASAS, Bay Area SAS
users group, to see if we can work out an arrangement both organizations
can live with.