[bit.listserv.novell] Questions

LAUSSEGG@AWIWUW11.BITNET (01/11/90)

Hi...

I have a few questions, well mixed:

1. Did anybody hear about bugs in Maynard 2.4? I heard, that a file
   that is splitted between two tapes may be corrupted.
   I am using a 140 MB tape drive with 3M tapes.
2. Does anybody know something about the coexistence of Novell (SFT2.15)
   and Dataflex? I am using Dataflex 2.03b, nearly 300MB incl. indices.
   I suppose some of my troubles are caused by the software.
3. Why isnt it possible to run both, Novell and TCP/IP at the same
   time? When I begin with NCSA/Telnet (3C523/MC) no problems to run
   the Netware but the other way round I cant get any connection. Our
   Network admin. told me that the problem comes from Novell, but really,
   I do not believe him.

Thanks in advance
Robert

ronc@XLNVAX.EXCELAN.COM (Ron Cully) (01/12/90)

  > I have a few questions, well mixed:
  >
  > 3. Why isnt it possible to run both, Novell and TCP/IP at the same
  >    time? When I begin with NCSA/Telnet (3C523/MC) no problems to run
  >    the Netware but the other way round I cant get any connection. Our
  >    Network admin. told me that the problem comes from Novell, but really,
  >    I do not believe him.
  >
  > Thanks in advance
  > Robert
  >
You can run Novell and TCP/IP at the same time depending upon
who's implementation of TCP/IP you use.  Novell has an implementation
(from the former Excelan) called LAN WorkPlace for DOS that
runs concurrently with the NetWare shell.  It also includes
a NetBios interface that is compatible with MS-NET stuff so
you can conceivably have concurrent MS-NET and NetWare connections
from the same PC.  LWP does require a Novell card called the
205 (for XT/AT busses) or the 215 (for MC).  The TCP/IP is
run on the NIC directly so it is higher performance for slower
XT and AT machines.  The IPX stack uses a link level interface
on the 2x5 card (so it uses the PC CPU to do the protocol work).
Other implementations with concurrent TCP/IP and IPX are available
from Wollongong and (I believe) FTP Software.  These implementations use
a dumb controller and the TCP/IP stacks are host resident.  As
for NCSA/Telnet, I can't say.  I don't think the problem is with
the IPX stack though because other commercial packages can do it.

Ron Cully
Prod Mktg Engr

sherk@UMD5.UMD.EDU (Erik Sherk) (01/12/90)

>  > I have a few questions, well mixed:
>  >
>  > 3. Why isnt it possible to run both, Novell and TCP/IP at the same
>  >    time? When I begin with NCSA/Telnet (3C523/MC) no problems to run
>  >    the Netware but the other way round I cant get any connection. Our
>  >    Network admin. told me that the problem comes from Novell, but really,
>  >    I do not believe him.
>  >
>  > Thanks in advance
>  > Robert
>  >
>You can run Novell and TCP/IP at the same time depending upon
>who's implementation of TCP/IP you use.  Novell has an implementation
>(from the former Excelan) called LAN WorkPlace for DOS that
>runs concurrently with the NetWare shell.  It also includes
>a NetBios interface that is compatible with MS-NET stuff so
>you can conceivably have concurrent MS-NET and NetWare connections
>from the same PC.  LWP does require a Novell card called the
>205 (for XT/AT busses) or the 215 (for MC).  The TCP/IP is
>run on the NIC directly so it is higher performance for slower
>XT and AT machines.  The IPX stack uses a link level interface
>on the 2x5 card (so it uses the PC CPU to do the protocol work).
>Other implementations with concurrent TCP/IP and IPX are available
>from Wollongong and (I believe) FTP Software.  These implementations use
>a dumb controller and the TCP/IP stacks are host resident.  As
>for NCSA/Telnet, I can't say.  I don't think the problem is with
>the IPX stack though because other commercial packages can do it.
>
>Ron Cully
>Prod Mktg Engr

	While the Novell TCP/IP (and Wollongong, FTP, etc. ) works
it has one major problem. It costs money! On the other hand, with
a little work, NCSA and Novell can work together just fine. They can
work together through packet drivers. I suggest that you anonymous'ly
ftp novell.exe and drivers.arc from omnigate.clarkson.edu (128.153.4.2)
and give'm a try...

Erik
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Erik Sherk					sherk@umd5.umd.edu
Network Infrastructure				(301) 454-0864
Computer Science Center
University of Maryland

bdahlen@ZEPHYR.CAIR.DU.EDU (Robert L. Dahlen @ U. of Denver USA=) (01/13/90)

> >You can run Novell and TCP/IP at the same time depending upon
> >who's implementation of TCP/IP you use.  Novell has an implementation
  [stuff deleted]
> >Other implementations with concurrent TCP/IP and IPX are available
> >from Wollongong and (I believe) FTP Software.  These implementations use
> >a dumb controller and the TCP/IP stacks are host resident.
>
> 	While the Novell TCP/IP (and Wollongong, FTP, etc. ) works
> it has one major problem. It costs money! On the other hand, with
> a little work, NCSA and Novell can work together just fine. They can
> work together through packet drivers. I suggest that you anonymous'ly
> ftp novell.exe and drivers.arc from omnigate.clarkson.edu (128.153.4.2)
> and give'm a try...
>

The NCSA solution only works if you have ETHERNET cabling though...

sherk@UMD5.UMD.EDU (Erik Sherk) (01/16/90)

>> >You can run Novell and TCP/IP at the same time depending upon
>> >who's implementation of TCP/IP you use.  Novell has an implementation
>  [stuff deleted]
>> >Other implementations with concurrent TCP/IP and IPX are available
>> >from Wollongong and (I believe) FTP Software.  These implementations use
>> >a dumb controller and the TCP/IP stacks are host resident.
>>
>> 	While the Novell TCP/IP (and Wollongong, FTP, etc. ) works
>> it has one major problem. It costs money! On the other hand, with
>> a little work, NCSA and Novell can work together just fine. They can
>> work together through packet drivers. I suggest that you anonymous'ly
>> ftp novell.exe and drivers.arc from omnigate.clarkson.edu (128.153.4.2)
>> and give'm a try...
>>
>
>The NCSA solution only works if you have ETHERNET cabling though...

	Or Token-Ring...

Erik