[bit.listserv.hellas] Arthro tou Spiegel - Protash

rigoutso@ROBROY.NYU.EDU (01/12/90)

Geia se olous kai pali.
To posting tou Basilh tou Saka gia to arthro tou Spiegel me prolabe.
Anarwtiomouna an kanenas listobios eixe proxeirh kopia tou arthrou.

To arthro einai polu shmantiko gia diaforous logous.  Apo oti  thumamai einai
arketa ektetameno kai exei polu zoumi. Pio analutika periexei sugkekrimenes
anafores se lathremporio narkwtikwn me edra sthn katexomenh Kupro kathws epishs
kai oplwn. Epishs ginetai upainigmos gia uparksh ergasthriou epeksergasias
hrwinhs sta katexomena. Auto einai basismeno sto gegonos oti sto limani ths
Mersinas (?? -- gia thn topothesia den eimai apoluta bebaios) egine katasxesh
ploiou pou metefere xhmika pou xrhsimopoiountai gia thn douleia auth. Epishs
ginetai kai anafora sth dusareskeia twn Tourkokupriwn apenanti stous ~50.000
"mauromoustakous" --- onomasia pou dinoune oi Tourkokuprioi stous epoikous pou
exei steilei h mama Tourkia stha katexomena. Telos ginetai upenthumish twn
gnwstwn kai mh eksairetaiwn peristatikwn kaphleias twn ekklhsiwn sta
katexomena.

Opws katalabainei kanenas ena tetoio arthro isodunamei me karre (an oxi flos)
gia ta scg/sct kuriws epeidh einai antigrafh apo egkuro periodiko kai oxi
proswpikh krish tou poster.  An loipon o Basilhs exei xrono as katsei kanena
diwro na tou riksei mia kalh metafrash kai mazi me stoixeia gia selides kai
hmeromhnia as to steilei  sto scg. Kai mhn ksexnate thn pokadorikh methodo pou
eixe proteinei kapoios filos: sth arxh rixnei kapoios apo mas ena message sta
scg/sct sxetika me thn prosfath epembash twn Tourkwn sta eswterika mas kai thn
antithesh tous sthn egkatastash twn Pontiwn sthn Thrakh. Ginetai baboura,
mpainei kosmos sto paixnidi kai meta o Basilhs rixnei to message to diko tou
kai tous pairnei kai ta resta tous.  Tetoies eukairies den dinontai kai polu
suxna.

Isidwros



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ck@REX.CS.TULANE.EDU (Cris Koutsougeras) (01/12/90)

> Opws katalabainei kanenas ena tetoio arthro isodunamei me karre (an oxi flos)
> gia ta scg/sct kuriws epeidh einai antigrafh apo egkuro periodiko kai oxi
> proswpikh krish tou poster.  An loipon o Basilhs exei xrono as katsei kanena

Euge elpidofore vee mou.!! Paides sumfwvw kai epauksavw. Nomizw oti autn n
eukairia dev prepei va paei xamevn. Eivai kairos twra pou oi papares tou
sct exouv va fave tnv tapa tous.

> Kai mhn ksexnate thn pokadorikh methodo pou eixe proteinei
> kapoios filos: sth arxh rixnei kapoios apo mas ena message sta scg/sct
> sxetika me thn prosfath epembash twn Tourkwn sta eswterika mas kai thn
> antithesh tous sthn egkatastash twn Pontiwn sthn Thrakh. Ginetai baboura,
> mpainei kosmos sto paixnidi kai meta o Basilhs rixnei to message to diko tou
> kai tous pairnei kai ta resta tous.  Tetoies eukairies den dinontai kai polu
> suxna.

Nomizw omws oti to thema twv povtiwv dev eivai kalo xarti giati tha pouve
"e loipov afou kai seis ta idia kavete" pou safws bebaia eivai diaforetiko
alla THA tnv pouv tnv malakia tous. Nomizw oti n fagwmara pou uparxei autn
tnv stigmn sto sct divei mia alln eukairia. Tsakwvovtai teleutaia gia to
thema twv armeviwv kai eva basiko snmeio ekei eivai n metakivnsi twv armeviwv.
Autes oi metakivnseis moiazouv polu me to sevario tns dialusns tns kupriakns
koultouras kai suveidnsns sta katexomeva. Nomizw oti mporei kapoios va mpn
kateutheiav sto sct kai va riksei to mnvnma sav eva stoixeio gia tnv gevikwtern
taktikn twv tourkwv. TOTE fusika tha bgn kai o gvwstos davidiav o opoios tha
tous perilabei katalnla kai tha kseskalisei kai alla kai tha trexouv kai dev
tha ftavouv. Episns to thema prepei va avametadothei kai apo to scg alla prepei
va meivei kai mesa sto sct epeidn teleutaia uparxei polu kivnsi sto sct
dnladn poloi amerikavoi - blepete grafouv egglezika ekeivoi.

Episns pro kairou eixa avametadwsei eva arthro kapoiou tourkou "diavooumevou"
-pou dev to exw pia pou va parn- pou elege oti av eivai va akousei xristiavikn
psalmwdia stnv agia sofia tote avathema kai n eok kai n eurwpn kai kati alla
tetoia terpva. To exei mnpws kratnsei kaveis ; Auto divei eva prostheto
stoixeio sto thema tns tourkikns apopeiras va eksafavisouv kathe ixvos
politismou stnv prospatheia va "ektourkikepsouv" oti mporouv.

ALLA : opws kai va exei autn tnv fwla prepei va tnv riksoume !! Autn n
fwla dev eivai dikn mas eivai oln dikn tous. Kai mnpws prepei re va
thesoume to arthro up opsiv kai kavevos allou edw stnv ousa pou dev kserei
va diabazei germavika ; Twra teleutaia me tous polemous varkwtikwv polus
(politikos) kosmos exei givei euaisthntos.

Xrnstos

vnn@POMPANO.PHYS.UFL.EDU (Nikos Nicopoulos) (01/12/90)

Paidia, av o Basilns o Sakas thelei va mou steilei to arthro, protithemai va to
 metafrasw apo Germavika st' Agglika. Pes mou Basiln kai tha sou steilw tn
 dieuthuvsn mou.

Nikos Nikopoulos