TANASTAS@SUNRISE.BITNET (01/17/90)
Paidia kapoios (Ellinokyprios) esteile ena gramma sto social.culture.turkish
pou kai apo apopsi Anglikon kai apo apopsi epicheirimaton kai ekfrasis tous
itan to poly lypirotato!
An ta Anglika mas kai i epicheirimatologia mas einai toso hamilou epipedou
kalytera na to voulonoume giati perissotero cheirotereuoume ti thesi mas
para prosferoume tipota sti syzitisi.
Kata lathos to esvisa kai etsi den mboro na tou steilo tou paidiou prosopiko
mail, alla tetoia "postings" as mas ginoun paradeigma pros apofygi!
Filika,
Tassos Anastassiades
Syracuse University
Y.G. To subject eprepe na einai SCT kai ochi SCG, egine lathos!
^ ^geogiou@GN.ECN.PURDUE.EDU (Ioannes T Georgiou) (01/19/90)
Sxetika me to "ftwxo apo pleyras agglikwn kai epixeirhmatogias" posting pou esteile kapoios sto SCT, exw na eipw(se anti0esh me tis protaseis kapoiou) oti 0a prepei na ma0oume na grafoume agglika kai na epixeirhmatologoume kai oxi na valoume thn oura katw apo ta skelia mias kai den kseroume agglika kai epixeirhmatologia. Molis diavasa to posting kai nomizw oti mporei kapoios na katalavei eykola ti 0elei na eipei o Ioannis - opwsdhpote to posting xreiazetai ediding. Gia tous viasmous kai tis alles varbarotites twn "geitonwn" den exei ka0olou adiko. 0a eprepe omws na ek0esei ta epixeirhmata tou xwris vrasmo pshxhs. Opwsdhpote htan sfalma tou Ellhna pou eipe ston Ioannh na hremhsh. Kai touto to apodynkuei to gegonos oti kapoios "geitonas" ekmetaleythke thn rhksh kypriou-ellhna kai yposti- rikse pws h Ellhnikh froura einai paranomh sthn kypro enw den ekane nyksh gia thn stratia tou attila kai tis agglikes vaseis. O Ioannis eipe epishs thn uperafeleia oti osoi den einai kyprioi na paroun ta pragmata tous kai tous stratous tous kai na fygoun. Htan kati pou tou efyge katw apo vrasmo psyxhs. Parathrhsa omws pws kanenas "geitonas" den ton xleyase gia ta ftwxa agglika tou kai epixeirhmata tou. Parathrhsa epishs pws kanenas Ellhnas h Kyprios (mporei na kanw la0os) pou parakolou0ei to sgt den ton ypesthrhkse. Yiannis (ARKAS) P.S. Pou vrisketai ekeinh h metafrash tou a0rou gia thn B. Kypro. To a0ro xreiazetai gia thn ypostiriksh tou xaraktirismou "barvaros kai lehlaths" kai prepei na "serviris0ei" sto sgt. mias kai den kseroume agglika kai epixeirhmatologia. .
ns1b+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU (Nickolaos Sahinidis) (01/19/90)
> Molis diavasa to posting kai nomizw oti mporei kapoios na katalavei > eykola ti 0elei na eipei o Ioannis - opwsdhpote to posting xreiazetai > editing. Gia tous viasmous kai tis alles varbarotites twn "geitonwn" > den exei ka0olou adiko. 0a eprepe omws na ek0esei ta epixeirhmata tou > xwris vrasmo pshxhs. Opwsdhpote htan sfalma tou Ellhna pou eipe ston > Ioannh na hremhsh. Kai touto to apodynkuei to gegonos oti > kapoios "geitonas" ekmetaleythke thn rhksh kypriou-ellhna kai yposti- > rikse pws h Ellhnikh froura einai paranomh sthn kypro enw den ekane > nyksh gia thn stratia tou attila kai tis agglikes vaseis. Yianni, egw eipa ston Ioannh na hremhsh. Katarxas de nomizw oti to gegonos oti o "geitonas" uposthrikse auta pou uposthrikse apodeiknuei oti htan sfalma mou pou esteila to mhnuma. O tupos 0a mporouse na uposthriksei to idio akomh kai an egw den eixa parei 0esh. To pio ousiastiko omws -- pou de nomizw pws egine katalhpto -- einai oti den diafwnw me ton isxurismo tou Ioanni oti oi Tourkoi ekanan barbarothtes sthn Kupro. Auto omws de shmainei oti mporei o Ioannis 'h o opoiosdhpote allos na mpainei sto net kai na apokalei OLOUS tous Tourkous 'barbarians'. Phra loipon th 0esh pou phra gia duo logous. Prwton, dioti diafwnw me th logikh tou 'pas mh Ellhn barbaros'. Deuteron, gnwrizontas oti polloi amerikanoi diavazoun s.c.t. 0elhsa na kalupsw to xasimo twn entupwsewn pou kata th gnwmh mou upesth h Ellhnikh pleura me to mhnuma tou Ioanni. Ekeinou to mhnuma edeixne oti oi Ellhnes den mporoun na sugrathsoun ta veura tous, bgazoun epipolaia sumperasmata basizomenoi sta sunais0hmata tous k.t.l. To diko mou to mhnuma apeblepe sto na peisei tous anagnwstes gia to anti0eto. > Parathrhsa epishs pws kanenas Ellhnas h Kyprios (mporei na kanw > la0os) pou parakolou0ei to sgt den ton ypesthrhkse. Den kaneis la0os. To parathrhsa kai egw kai me kanei na skeftomai oti isws kai alloi Ellhnes na einai moudiasmenoi me thn sumperifora tou Ioanni. Den ksereis ti mporei na grapsei en brasmw psuxhs. Pws loipon na pareis thn apofash na ton uperaspiseis ; Prospa0hsa pantws na steilw ena deutero mhnuma pou na ksekinaei kapoia suzhthsh, alla kapou exei ka0usterhsei sto dromo kai de fanhke akomh. To problhma bebaia einai oti de gnwrizw polles apo tis leptomereies ths upo0eshs gia na kanw sobarh suzhthsh apo ena shmeio kai pera. > Yiannis (ARKAS) Nikos Sahinidis, CMU