SAKAS@CIUC2.UC.RCCN.PT (Vassilis SAKAS) (01/11/90)
Apo tnv Ellnvikn ekpompn toy BBC, 10.10.90, 20.00 GMT:
Se nremo klima favnke va egive n syvavtnsn twv Arxngwv ND-Pasok-+aspismoy
kai toy Zolwta, para ta "empveysmeva" dnmosieymata stov typo tis teleytaies
meres. O psnlos me dnlwseis toy eixe afnsei tnv ypopsia oti tha paei "sklnros"
stnv syvavtnsn kai oti isws me tnv stasn toy va eferve telos stnv oikoyme-
vikn kybervnsn, mia kai poy etsi kai aposyrei tnv empistosyvn toy pros tnv
kybervnsn tha paretnthei o Zolwtas (symfwva me dnlwseis toy prwthypoyrgoy).
Telika tipote apo ta avamevomeva devs yvebn, n syzntnsn peristrafnke gyrw apo
tis teleytaies protaseis toy Zolwta gia vees ayksnseis, ATA kai vomosxedio
peri forodiafygns. Oi protaseis toy Zolwta givave ligo-poly dektes, tha
epiblnthoyv veoi emmesoi foroi (ta gvwsta: bevzivn, kapva klp.), ATA tha
dothei sto ypsos toy 5.8% (vomizw) se eisodnmata mexri 130 Kilodraxmes, apo
kei kai pavw tha eivai kapws "koytsoyremevn". O Soyflias etoimazei veo sxedio
vomoy gia tnv "pataksn tns forodiafygns" (ta idia Pavtelakn moy.....) evw
koybevtiazovtai (akoma) oi perikopes stis "spatales" toy dnmosioy tomea
(kovtos psalmos.....). Oi poltikoi arxngoi (re paidia, psaksame poly gia va
toys broyme?) me dnlwseis toys meta tnv syvavtnsn edeiksav "kataplnktoi" gia ta
sevaria peri paraitnsns tns kybervnsns poy dnmosieytnkav stov typo, o psnlos
epavelabe oti stnrizei tnv kybervnsn Zolwta, o Andreas oti xairetai poy to
eisodnma twv ergazomevwv prostateyetai me tnv kataboln tns ATA, o Flwrakns
eipe oti eivai avtithetos stoys emmesoys foroys, kai oti ta eleimmata prepei
va kalyfthoyv me taxeia eispraksn twv dnlomevwv forwv, pataksn tns forodiafygns,
perikopn twv spatalwv toy dnmosioy tomea kai perikopn twv stratiotikwv dapavwv.
Gia ekloges pame mallov meta ta mesa Martn, o psnlos faivetai va tis
thelei priv apo to pasxa, o Avtreas ligo priv n ligo meta, pavtws rolo tha
paiksei kai to thema toy proedroy tns dnmokratias.
Akoma eva black-out eixe n Ellada tnv perasmevn bdomada, pali xwris nlektriko
gia kampose wres n Athnva kai alles perioxes.
Ta "albavika" polysyzntioyvtai tov teleytaio kairo, lete va exoyme kai ekei
perstroika se liges bdomades?
Ayta ta oliga, evw stov eyrwpaiko xwro, o Dumas (gallos yp. ekswterikwv) eivai
o prwtos dytikos yp. ekswterikwv poy episkeftetai to Boykoyresti, kai oi alles
avatolikoeyrwpaikes xwres etoimazovtai gia eklaiges.
Xairetw,
Vassilis.
YG1: To exoyme pei kai paliwtera: Mnv sprwxveste, oloi tha mpeite, exei
xwro gia oloys; n Ellada eivai MEGALH xwra........
YG2: Orthrographiko: Xrnsto (ck) se parakalw prosekse oti to epitheto moy
grafetai me eva 'k', kai Giavvn Arka, to periodiko grafetai "Spiegel"
(= kathreftns).
YG3: Grapste re seis tipote perissotero peri twv syvavtnsewv se Athnva kai Kara-
vtivvtiv, kaveva paraleipomevo kai ta toiayta.....
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================================================================================SAKAS@CIUC2.UC.RCCN.PT (Vassilis SAKAS) (01/16/90)
Apo tnv ellnvikn ekpompn toy BBC, Deytera 15.01.90, 20:00 GMT:
H eklogologia syvexizetai: O Tzavetakns eipe oti isws dwthei paratasn
merikwv ebdomadwv stnv kybervnsn Zolwta, para tnv prongoymevn avakoivwsn
tns ND gia ekloges to argotero mexri tnv 8n Aprilioy. Kata ta alla,
n EAP tha proteivei stov +aspismo va paratathei mexri tov Oktwbrn n ky-
bervnsn Zolwta kai mallov tha givei.
Proeklogiko alla mallov evdiaferov:
Symfwva me dnlwseis toy ypoyrgoy Ethv. Amyvas perimevoyme meiwsn tns
thnteias!!!! Sta plaisia twv perikopwv twv dapavwv twv evoplwv dyvamewv,
problepovtai, poiotikn avabathmisn toy ylikoy, kathws episns kai poiotikn
avabathmisn toy EMPSYXOY YLIKOY, opote dev apokleietai kai n meiwsn tns
thnteias. Fysika o ypoyrgos (poy eivai tns ND, tharw o Tzavetakns eivai)
dev eipe pote kai kata poso tha meiwthei n thnteia, afoy tetoia pragmata
givovtai movo me safeis eklogikoys stoxoys :-) . Tha deiksei to prama.
Gia avavewsn gvwsewv: H thnteia sto peziko eivai pros stigmnv 18 mnves
kathara, alla yparxei evas mnvas akoma poy "aiwreitai", pros to parov
divetai sav "ef'apaks" adeia sto telos tns thnteias.
Gia to arthro toy SPEIGEL poy rwtnsav merikoi: metafrazetai pros stigmnv
kai tha stalei evtos twv nmerwv, elpizw. (Ted, Nico eftase?) Sto katw katw
se dyo bdomades arxizei veos kyklos syvomiliwv stov OHE metaksy "votiwv" kai
"boreiwv" Kypriwv, aytn tnv fora me "evtatiko" styl, dnladn tha katsoyv
syvexeia gia dyo bdomades sto trapezi kai tha ta leve. H US diplwmatia
kiveitai kapws tov teleytaio kairo gia to kypriako kai faivetai oti kai
n Sov. Evwsn exei dwsei to OK gia aytes tis kivnseis.
Ayta ta liga snmera,
Vassilis (Coimbra)
YG: Avekdoto:
Se eva oreivo xwrio tns portogalias paratnrnthke oti o deiktns
gevvnsewv ntav poly psnloteros apo tov meso oro tns perioxns kai
tov meso oro tns xwras gevikwtera. Apostoln empeirogvwmwv emeive
merikoys mnves sto xwrio gia va ereyvnsei to faivomevo kai telika
esteile tnv akoloythn lakwvikn ekthesn:
"To prwivo traivo pervaei stis 5:30 . Poly arga gia va ksavakoi-
mntheis, poly vwris gia va snkwtheis...."
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================================================================================E3T@PSUVM.BITNET (01/16/90)
O filos o Sakas sto teleutaio tou posting ethikse to thema tou
stratou kai tha eithela kai egw na prosthesw kati pou akousa
teleutaia kai nomizw oti aksizei ton kopo...
Enas filos mou pou twra einai 32 xronwn pou douleuei stin NASA, enw
asxoliwtan me tous stratologikous nomous gia paratasi tis anavolis tou,
emathe oti o palios nomos pou epetrepe se "diakekrimenous epistimones"
na pernoun extra theitia ( +3 xronia) PALI EINAI SE ISXU!!!....
Auto leei tou to eipan apo to stratologiko tou grafeio apo tin patrida!
Etsi twra tha prospathisei na ton xrisimopoiisei ton nomo auto!.......
Eimai panw apo sigouros oti enas tetoios nomos tha endiefere pollous!...
Kserei kaneis tipote allo sxetiko? Mporoun ta parapanw na epivevaiothoun
kai apo allou?.....
Gia xara,
-- Vangelis Triantaphyllou
Penn State University
e-mail: E3T@PSUVM.BITNETjcostas@IHLPB.ATT.COM (01/16/90)
Apo to posting tou Vangeli Triantaphyllou: > ...o palios nomos pou epetrepe se "diakekrimenous epistimones" na pernoun > extra theitia (+3 xronia) PALI EINAI SE ISXU!!!.. Katse kala re Vangeli, ti extra theitia - profavws extra avaboln evvoeis. San diakekrimenos (vai re, opou vavai pairvw to Nobel) ferelpis veos 0a evdiaferomouv poly gia perisoteres plnrofories. Akougetai sav kalo dwro geve0liwv (snmera 16 Jan, egiva 25 Maiwv - bastouvia kai avapnrika karotsakia dev 0a givouv dekta ws dwra). Opoios gvwrizei perisotera gia to 0ema as riksei surma epeigovtws. Costas Tsioras (stnv Agglia gia akoma 4 meres) AT&T Network Systems UK ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "..I'm a substitute for another guy, I look pretty tall but my heels are high, simple things look so complicated, I look pretty young but I'm just backdated.." "Substitute" - The Who (1972)
npx@NW.STL.STC.CO.UK (Nicholas Xenios) (01/16/90)
Simplironontas tin eidiseologia tou Vassili Saka pano stin miosi tis thitias prin apo ligo moupan apo Ellada oti i meiosi tha einai (i protasi) gia tous 13 mines !!! ??? !!! Afta Nikos
SAKAS@CIUC2.UC.RCCN.PT (Vassilis SAKAS) (01/26/90)
Apo tnv fwvn tns Elladas, 26.1.90, 12:00 GMT: (oti proftasa va sygkratnsw): Syzntnsn gia ta "ergatika" stnv keybervnsn kai komata: PASOK syavspismos symfwvoyv va mporoyv va prosfeygoyv stnv diaitnsia. H ND thelei va exoyv kai oi ergodotes to idio dikaiwma. O ypoyrgos ekswterikwv tns Albavias Kaplavi episkeyteyai tnv Athnva snmera erxomevos apo Toyrkia. Diapseytnkav "xliara" eidnseis poy theloyve va epikeitai symfwvia metaksy Elladas - HPA gia apomakryvsn twv basewv Ellnvikoy kai Neas Makrns. H ellnvikn kybervnsn eipe oti akoma dev exei symfwvnthei tipote. Mntsotakns stnv Eyrwpn: Boylgaria, Tsexoslobakia, Av. Germavia, Italia kai kapoy akoma (dev thymamai) kai ola ayta mesa se eva mnva... As mnv biastei, dev tha mas leipsei.....:-) (dev pairvei kai toys alloys arxngoys mazi toy va nsyxasoyme??!!!) KNE: ektakto syvedrio. Fysika gia avadiarthrwsn tns se veolaiistikn orgavwsn n kapws etsi to eipave. Aitnsn Ntoras Mpakogiavvn gia va aporeytei me vomo n dnmosieysn stov typo twv prokyrnksewv tromokrtikwv orgavwsewv. Mallov dev tha perasei. Ta kefalaia sas paidia: Dol 184/165 Marko 94/95 lira 255/266 Jen 1.10/1.11 Geia xara, vassilis (Coimbra)
SAKAS@CIUC2.UC.RCCN.PT (Vassilis SAKAS) (02/03/90)
Ksexasa sto prongoymevo mail va grapsw:
Sta Ellnvotoyrkika prostithetai kati akoma:
O proedros Thamvos twv USA zntnse apo to Koggresso tnv katargnsn toy 7:10
kai tnv allagn toy se 6,3/10 . Eivai blepete oi baseis poy tha fygoyv
(pote?) kai n symfwvia poy prpei va "kleisei" gia tis ypoloipes.
Ekbiasmos? Peste to kai etsi, pavtws eivai emfaves oti oi USA theloyv va
dnmioyrgnsoyv proypotheseis "eyxaristoy" klimatos gia tnv parapera
paramovn twv ypoloipwv basewv ("ama meivoyve oi baseis tha exete 7/10
alliws papala"). Ev tw metaksy n Boyln twv Ellnvwv psnfise vomosxedio
gia 6-mnvn paratasn tns symfwvias gia tnv "apomakryvsn" twv basewv.
"Nai" psnfisave oi ND kai PASOK (apoysiazav polloi boyleytes toy PASOK)
"Oxi" oi toy +aspismoy.
Oi ekloges plnsiazoyv, o Mntsotakns katngorise tov Avtrea oti alla
yposxetai stis syvavtnseis twv arxngwv kai alla kavoyv oi boyleytes toy,
evw to PASOK apavtnse oti "oloi pia gvwrizoyv kala oti n ND eivai
aytn poy empodizei to ergo tns kybervnsns". Kovtos psalmos allnloyia,
dnladn.
Vassilis (Coimbra)
YG: Pes ta re Theodore Soldate, exeis apolyto dikio. Symfwvw kai egw mazi
soy oti oi "ellnvotoyrkikes" sxeseis xrnsimopoioyvtai edw kai polla
xrovia KAI apo tis dyo pleyres gia apoprosavatolismo twv "koivwv
gvwmewv". Kai tnv plnrwvoyv oi kakomoirndes stnv Thrakn n tnv
Kwv/poln, giati nlithioi thermoaimoi (ligoi alla ftavoyv) yparxoyv
kai stis dyo meries toy Aigaioy... Kai kati akoma:
Ntrepomai, alla dev vtrepomai poy vtrepomai :-) .