[bit.listserv.hellas] Ithageneia vs Yphkoothta

NGAVRIE@ISUCARD.BITNET (Nick Gavrielatos (515) 294-6887) (02/05/90)

Re paidia, sygxwreiste mou tin amatheia, alla mporei kapoios
na mou ekshghsei poia h diafora metaksy ithageneias kai
uphkoothtas?

Epikrotw thn apofash tis Ellhnikhs kybernhshs, kai malista xairomai
dipla, giati deixnei pws h oikoumenikh kybernhsh einai oxi mono
apodekth apo olous, alla kai isxyrh kybernhsh ikanh na odhghsh
to topo se kalliteres hmeres. Auta gia osous theloun ekloges
kai prwthypourgika aksiwmata endos twn epomenwn mhnwn!

Nikos Gavrielatos
NGAVRIE@ISUCARD

ns1b+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU (Nickolaos Sahinidis) (02/06/90)

H i0ageneia dhlwnei koinh katagwgh, h0h kai e0ima.
H uphkoothta exei na kanei me to se poion upakous,
dhladh poianou kratous tous nomous sebesai kai
ta dikaiwmata apolambaneis.

O prwtos oros einai e0nologikos, enw o deuteros nomikos.

Oi mousoulmanoi ths 0rakhs mporei na mhn exoun
thn Ellhnikh i0ageneia, alla einai Ellhnes uphkooi pou
shmainei oti exoun ta idia dikaiwmata kai upoxrewseis
me tous upoloipous Ellhnes.  Oi exontes Ellhnikh i0ageneia
mporoun na apokthsoun Amerikankkh uphkoothta kai malista
xwris na xasoun kai thn Ellhnikh (!) katopin eidikhs
sumfwnias twn duo xwrwn.


Nikos Sahinidis
Carnegie Mellon

AVLA@UORDBV.BITNET (02/06/90)

O oros ithageneia dhlwnei ton topo pou gennhthhke kapoios.
Kapoios pou gennhthhke sthn Ellada ecei ellhnikh ithageneia.  Kapoios
pou gennhthhke sthn Germania ecei germanikh ithageneia.  H ithageneia einai
kati pou den allazei.  Kapoios pou gennhthke sthn Germania me kanena tropo
den mporei na apokthsei thn ellhnikh ithageneia.
O oros uphkoothta dhlwnei ton topo pou kapoios ecei dikaiwmata kai upocrewseis
pou phgazoun apo tous nomous pou iscuoun ston topo auto.  Kapoios pou einai
ellhnas uphkoos cairei dikaiwmatwn kai upocrewsewn pou phgazoun apo to
ellhniko suntagma kai ellhnikh nomothesia.
H uphkoothta einai kati pou allazei.  Meta apo orismenh paramonh se kapoio
topo einai dunaton na apokthsei kapoios thn uphkoothta tou topou.  Kapoios
pou gennhthke sthn Ellada kai zei sthn Amerikh gia ena orismeno croniko
diasthma kai ekplhrwnei orismenes proypotheseis einai dunaton na apokthsei
kai thn amerikanikh upykoothta.  H ellhnikh yphkoothta den canetai.  Se ela-
cistes periptwseis pou metriountai sta daktula twn ceriwn ecei afairethei
h ellhnikh uphkoothta apo ellhnes uphkoous sto parelthon kai auto mono gia
politikous logous alla auta kalo einai na thewrountai perasmena xecasmena.
Alexandros Vlandis, Rochester
AVLA@DB1.CC.ROCHESTER.EDU

PETROPOULOS@NUACC.BITNET (02/06/90)

File Niko Sahinidh...
H sumfwnia pou aneferes einai reciprocal ? i.e. mporeis na pareis thn
Ellhnikh hpikoothta xwris na xaseis thn Amerikanikh ? Efoson exeis thn
Ellhnikh ithageneia (sumfwna me ton orismo sou).

Petros (Northwestern)