ns1b+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU (Nickolaos Sahinidis) (02/06/90)
Apo oti katalabainw oi fasaries sthn Komotinh de 0a eixane ginei an den uphrxan tosoi mousoulmanoi sugkentrwmenoi sthn perioxh (profanws !!!). Euloga loipon gennatai to erwthma: Ti kinhtra 0a mporouse na dwsei h Ellhnikh kubernhsh se autous tous an0rwpous wste na egkataleipsoun thn perioxh kai na diaskorpistoun sthn upoloiph Ellada ; An ginei auto me eirhnikous tropous mesa se mia 5etia, oi taraxes kai oi fasaries 0a eksafanistoun amesws. Alla kai oi mousoulmanoi 0a aporrofi0oun apo tous upoloipous Ellhnes mesa se duo-treis genees. Exei kaneis sxetikes protaseis ; Nikos Sahinidis Carnegie Mellon
COSTAS@UCSVAX.SDSU.EDU (Dr. Costas Lyrintzis) (02/06/90)
Ta kinitra einai gnosta kai ehoun anaferthei kai sti lista.
Afto pou prepei na ginei einai na ditethoun hrimata kai na iparhei
mia sinepis kai statheri politiki gia ti periohi. Polla mporoun na
ginoun, opos ligoteroi foroi se akiniti periousia, ligoteroi foroi
se nees epiheiriseis, daneia me hamilo daneio gia spitia kai
epiheiriseis, kratika erga gia ta limania, tis paralies kai tous
dromous, hamiloteri timi agathon (i kivernisi plironei kati tous
paragogous). I istoria einai palia kai eihe arhisei me tin
entaxi tou panepistimiou sti Thraki. To Panepistimio prepei na
megalosei kai na dothoun kalliteroi misthoi se kathigites gia
na iparhei kinitro. I idiotiki protovoulia prepei na enishithei me
dania se nees epiheiriseis.
Ola afta vevaia hreiazontai hrimata, kai opos eipa kai proigoumenos
statheri politiki, ohi opos sinithos simvainei sti Ellada!
Afta kai kali tous (kai mas) tyhi!
Filika,
Costas apo South California (extra south - extra west)
P.S. 1: Panathinaikara-trifilara ole-ole-ole !!!!
P.S. 2: Boston Celtics all the way!
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-vounou@WPI.WPI.EDU (Nikolaos A Gkanatsios) (02/06/90)
Niko, mia allh protash einai h egkatastash twn Pontiwn sth Thrakh.
Me thn pontiakh drasthriothta sthn perioxh alla kai me thn isorropoia
ths analogias metaksu Xristianwn kai Mousoulmanwn, eimai sigouros oti
ta pragmata tha einai pio hrema.
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Nikolaos Gkanatsios ##########
vounou@wpi.{bitnet,wpi.edu} ********************************
Nuclear Engineering Department *** Drive crazy, hack free ***
Worcester Polytechnic Institute ********************************82phpu82@CSD4.CSD.UWM.EDU (John Vamvakas) (02/06/90)
Prosopika,den pistevo oti tha thelisoun na egatalipsoun i mousoulmani ti periohi tis Thrakis.Isos an ta kinitra ine pragmatika deleastika na gini kati alla ke pali iparhoun ethnikistiki loyi pou tha tous kanoun na paraminoun.Mi xehname oti i Tourkia ine afti pou propagandizi ke ipothalpi to oniro ya mia-kapia mera- tourkiki ditiki Thraki.Tha kani lipon o,ti pernai apo to heri tis na kratisi sigentromenous tous tourkous eki.Exallou,tora me to neo ekloyiko nomo,tous epitrepete na eklegoun diko tous anexartito voulefti ke tha 'ne megali aperiskepsia apo merous tous na hasoun esto ke ti ligosti afti dinami pou xafnika apektisan.Tora,an ipothesoume oti ta kinitra pou ipothetika tha tous dothoun ine ontos deleastika, isos afto tha theorithi ek merous ton allon ellinon san ena idos diakrisis is varos tous. Ki istera ine ke diskolo na aporrofithoun apo tous allous ellines.I prosopiki empiria mou pano s'afto sinigori ya to antitheto.Eho ena thio pou meni sto SXHMATARI (mia komopoli ligo prin apo ti Thiva. Sigoura oli kapote th'akousate ya ta diodia SXHMATAPIOY).Sto SXHMATAPI lipon ketikoun polli tourki i opii ergazonte sta yiro ergostasia.Ohi mono den ehoun aporofithi apo tous ipolipous katikous alla ehoun shimatisi ena idos "getto" sti komopoli. Pantos ke go pistevo oti sigoura kati tha prepi na gini oste EIPHNIKA na miosoume i ki an ine dinaton na exalipsoume tin entasi apo ti periohi. Yannis-FEP-30 Gamma
geogiou@GN.ECN.PURDUE.EDU (Ioannes T Georgiou) (02/06/90)
Symfwnw pws h afomiwsh ths mousoulmanikhs koinothtas einai enas tropos na apofygoume mellontikes fasaries sth 0rakh. H afomiwsh ayth einai afikth an o ellhnas poliths dektei ton mousoulmano na egkatasta0ei dipla tou. Edw den nomizw pws yparxie problhma. Einai dyskolo omws na peiseis tous mousoulmanous na egkatalei- psoun thn 0rakh kai na egkatasta0oun se kapoio allo meros ths ellados. Kai einai touto einai dyskolo giati ka0odhgoutai apo thn mhtera patrida. H afomiwsh twn mousoulmanwn eprepe na eixe ginei polu prin - twra isws einai arga kai opote prepei na ereynhsoume gia allh lysh. Ta teleytaia gegonota sth 0rakh kai h adiantroph epemvash ths tourkias epivaloun thn eyresh sovarhs lyshs kai oxi proxeirhs. Mia apo aytes ths lyshs einai na e egkatasta0oun oi pontioi sth 0rakh. kai paralhla prepei na ginei na eyre0ei tropos na afomiwsh o 0rakikos laos thn mousoulmanikh koinothta. ARKAS
kpstamat@RODAN.ACS.SYR.EDU (02/06/90)
Giannh thn istoria me to SXHMATARI 0a sthn pw kalutera egw giati eimai
apo 0hba kai exoume pollous mousoulmanous pou douleuoun sta ergostasia
kai ta xwrafia. Gyrw sto 70 sthn perioxh Sxhmatariou kai 0hbas logw
egkatastasews pollen biomhxaniwn eidika klwstoufantourgias uphrxe
elleipsh fthnwn ergatikwn xeriwn. San apotelesma katebasan mousoulmanous
apo thn 0rakh gia na kanoun auth th douleia. Opws grafei o Giannhs
zoune se gketa pou autoi dhmiourghsane se polu a0lies sun0hkes
0a mporousa na pw oti den exw kammia diafora me tous guftous. Den
stelnoun ta paidia tous sto sxoleio, me apotelesma na phgainei
o xwrifulakas na pernei to paidi apo to spiti gia na paei sto
sxoleio. Apotelesma na ginontai fasaries epi sunexeis basews
sta gketa giati o xwrofulakas pernei ta paidia tous na pane sxoleio.
Twra apo suggeneis mou pou xrhsimopoioun mousoulmanous sta xwrafia
mou exoun pei oti den xeroun kala -kala na mhlhsoun thn Ellhnikh
glwssa den xeroun na kanoun tis basikes praxeis gia na bgaloun
ena logariasmo. Perrito na sas pw oti thn idia epoxh sta xwrafia
xrhsimopoiousan kai guftous oi opoio htan pio morfwmenoi
apo tous mousoulmanoun. Twra bebaia oi guftoi exoun ginoi
emporoi den douleuoun sta xwrafia!
Kwstas Stamatakhsnbp@SWORD.BELLCORE.COM (Nikolaos-John Pronios) (02/06/90)
Symfwnw, alla ta kinhtra auta 0a prepei na einai kat'eksoxhn oikonomika. Exeis deis polles Ellhnikes kyvernhseis na pairnoun swsta oikonomika metra, wste na perimeneis kati tetoio? Akomh, auto xreiazetai atoma pou na mporoun na skeftoun papapera apo ta texnokratika/or0ologistika oria. Emeis (sthn Ellada) exoume provlhma sto na kanoume auta pou h koinh logokh epivallei se pio xamhlo epipedo...... Auta, Nikos P.
82phpu82@CSD4.CSD.UWM.EDU (John Vamvakas) (02/07/90)
Os pros to thema kata poso efkola i diskola mpori o ellinas na dehti na yini ena me ton pou tha meni sti diplani polikatikia,epitrepste mou na eho merikes epifilaxis. An thelete merika stihia parte san paradigmata ti simperifora ton simpatrioton mas apenanti stous tsigganous (yiftous) ke ton edo stis HPA katikounton omoyenon apenanti stous mavrous. Yannis-FEP-30 Gamma