[bit.listserv.hellas] arabourghmata

PAPATHEODORO@SASK.USASK.CA (02/06/90)

"Xara" sta arabika pragmati shmainei skata,
kai malista (Vasilh s'epiasa anenhmerwto)
"Gia Xara" shmainei "esu (eisai) kourada",
opote magges mhn apeu0un0eite pote se Araba
etsi, kai idiws oxi "geia xara ntan" giati
"din" shmainei "0rhskeia" (kai ta fwnhenta
oi arabes ta mperdeuoun) opote fantazeste ti
exei na ginei, ama nakatepsoume skata kai
0rhskeies. Mia kai milame gia 0rhskeies, enas
Tourkos filos (nai re, filos, mhn afhnete to
swbinismo sas na sas parasernei) edw isxurizetai
oti "Karadininis" shmainei "g..w th maurh 0rhskeia
sou", kai den exw logo na mhn ton pistepsw!
Twra gia ton Karuwtakh: nai, ta paraeipa kapws,
kai o logos htan oti h0ela na taraksw kapws ta
nera, pragma pou fainetai katafera. Mporei oi
plhrofories mou na einai la0os, alla oti kai
na mou peite o tupos murizei 0anato ("0anatos
ki'oi gunaikes pou agapiountai ka0ws na ka0arizoune
kremmudia" klp., ti eipes Metaxa gia ka0hmerines
asxolies?), kai eksakolou0w na pisteuw oti h
fhmh tou kai h 0esh tou sthn Ellhnikh poihsh einai
adikaiologhth. Oson afora tis Ellhnides kai to gamo
klp., o Karuwtakhs ftaiei sto ba0mo pou dinei
euglwtta logia gia thn ekfrash tou misogunismou,
kai sto katw katw den ton anefera egw ton K.K.
(Karuwtakh, oxi Karadininh) me sxesh s'auto to
0ema (ennow "se sxesh m'auto to 0ema", ta daxtula
mou den me upakoun teleutaia).
Telos, o Kabafhs: tous omofulofulous den tous apokalw
"pousthdes" pote, oute prokeitai pote na kathgorhsw
ton Kabafh gia Kruwtakika "amarthmata", o an0rwpos
ka0e allo para murizei 0anato, kai an eftaikse se
tipote einai oti agaphse th zwh kai tis diaproswpikes
sxeseis uperbolika (oxi dhladh oti einai amarthma,
xwris auto den 0a htan Kabafhs, alla o idios kapou
kapou memfetai ton eauto tou gi'auto).
Auta loipon kai as me sugxwresei o kahmenos o
Karuwtakhs, pantws h diagnwsh ths neurwtikhs
maniokata0lipshs den einai dikh mou alla diakekrimenwn
psuxologwn, kai to pws diabazoume kai xrhsimopoioume
thn poihsh eksartatai apo mas, ki'egw ton Karuwtakh
den ton paw re paidaki mou....
Giwrgos (Saskatoon)

takis@ELEAZAR.DARTMOUTH.EDU (Panagiotis Metaxas) (02/06/90)

Gia ton Giwrgo apo to Sascatoon (kai opoion allon endiaferei
to 0ema Karuwtakhs)

Gia sou Giwrgo,

Gia ta gousta sthn poihsh, "peri oreksews koloky0opitta".
Esu den ton pas, alla emena mou aggikses euais0htes xordes.

Gia to paradeigma tou oti murizei 0anatos pou aneferes,
"agapiountai" shmainei epishs "kanoun erwta".
Allakse thn leksh kai 0a katalabeis oti den anaferetai
stis ka0hmerines asxolies.

O 0anatos tou, htan mallon 0anatos diamarturias,
opws h autoktonia twn Giapwnezwn kai twn 0ibetianwn
monaxwn me autopurpolismo. Isws exeis akousei gia tis
energeies tou san sundikalisths kai to kunhgi tou
Ypourgou Kurkou (patera tou Lewnida) pou mallon
ton efere se authn thn apofash.

Misogunismo den exw dei pou0ena. Kai xioumor die0ete
o an0rwpos, kai monima gelastos htane. An 0es (kai to exeis
proxeiro) me parapempeis stis apopseis autwn twn "diakekrimmenwn
psyxologwn" pou ton bgazoun maniokata0liptiko.

Gia rikse mia matia kai sthn AGAPH tou:

   Ki hmoun sto skotadi. Ki hmoun to skotadi.
        Kai me eide mia axtida.

   Drosoula to ilaro to proswpo ths
   ki egw hmoun to kataksero asfodili.
   Pws m'eseise to ksypnhma ths nioths,
   pws egelasan ta pikra mou xeilh!

   Sampws ta matia ths na mou eipan oti
   den eimai pleon o nauagos ki o monos,
   ki elugisa san apo truferoth,
   egw pou m'eixe petra kanei o ponos.


(An auto murizei 0anato, egw den exw muth...)

PAPATHEODORO@SASK.USASK.CA (02/07/90)

File Metaxa: ap'oti fainetai, oi poihtes einai
san thn agia grafh (h to korani). Ti ennow m'auto:
an diabaseis ena poihma mono (h ena stixo mono)
mporeis na uposthrikseis opoiodhpote epixeirhma,
kai o ka0e anagnwsths diabazei auto pou 0elei mesa
sta logia tou poihth (eitai Karuwtakhs legetai, eite
euaggelisths eite Mwame0). Esu dineis emfash sthn
AGAPH, alla egw den mporw na ksexasw thn PREBEZA,
to EMBATHRIO PEN0IMO kai KATAKORYFO kai tous
IDANIKOUS AUTOXEIRES. Kai arnoumai na pisteyw oti h
autoktonia tou htan diamarturia enantia ston diwgmo
tou upourgou:kapoios pou grafei poihmata tetoia,
pou bazei titlo se poihma IDANIKOI AYTOXEIRES (me
pianei sugkruo mono pou akouw tis lekseis) einai
erwteumenos me to 0anato kai oxi th zwh. En pash
periptwsei, dexomai ta epixeirhmata sou oson afora
t epidrash tou K.K. sto sunais0hma sou, alla
proswpika den pei0omai, ki'eksakolou0w na pisteuw
oti o K.K. mas poulhse th 0anatolatreia gia
euais0hsia kai th misan0rwpia gia sunais0hma.
Dustuxws, exontas epite0ei sekapoion pou einai
"uperanw upoyias kai kritikhs" kinduneya na auto-
xarakthristw barbaros kai "filistaios" (an kai oi
kahmenoi oi filistaioi htan polu pio politismenoi
apo tous Ebraious pou tous ebgalan to onoma). Opoios
diabase ta mhnumata mou mexri twra kapws pio
prosektika elpizw na mh bgalei auto to sumperasma.
Xairetw.... Giwrgos Papa0eodwrou apo Novosibirsk.

takis@ELEAZAR.DARTMOUTH.EDU (Panagiotis Metaxas) (02/07/90)

Kat' arxhn Giwrgo, den se 0ewrw oute barbaro oute filistaio,
kai auto to blepeis apo tis apanthseis mou.

Alla eipame, gousta einai auta. Oi Idanikoi Autoxeires,
einai to akron awton tou autosarkasmou ("pws 0'anabaloun
bebaioi kata ba0os")

Gia thn Prebeza, 0a sou grapsw to gramma pou esteile o KGK
ston adelfo tou:

   "Apopse to bapori hr0e shmaiostolismeno. Megas 0orubos mesa
sth Nomarxia otan to eidame. O k. A' Grammateus ephgaine pera-dw0e
anhsuxos. Poios einai mesa; O Nomarxhs; O Gen. Dieu0unths h kammia
allh proswpikoths; Epitelous twra ekshkribw0h oti tou ploiou epebaine
o Sebasmiwtatos Iwanninwn (thn euxh tou naxeis). Kai tote
epesame pali sth narkh mas.

   " Auta einai ta newtera ths Prebezhs. Allh eidhsh, h opoia elpizw na
se endiaferei eks'isou, einai oti prox0es o k. Eirhnodikhs aphgage
thn merida pou tou eferan sto ksenodoxeio [=estiatorio], epeidh
thn hbre elleiph, afou thn tulikse prwta s'ena ka0apo xarti.
Thn ezugise sthn Astunomia, thn efere pali, thn eksediplwse,
thn ebale sto piato tou kai thn efage"


Gia sou kai nasai kala, TM.

PAPATHEODORO@SASK.USASK.CA (02/07/90)

Ta arabourghmata einai peritexnes kai leptes
diakosmhseis se biblia, ktiria klp. Einai sxedon
panta periploka gewmetrika sxhmata h autosxediasmoi
panw se grammata tou arabikou alfabhtou (alla xwris
nohma, oi legomenes koufikes epigrafes). O logos
pou h kallitexnikh tous empneush mphke sto kanali
ths diakosmhtikhs texnhs einai h apagoreush apo to
Korani ths eikonografias (eite an0rwpinwn eite zwikwn
morfwn), pou sumfwna me ton Mwame0 odhgei sthn
eidwlolatreia. H teleutaia pepoi0hsh kuriarxouse kai
stous eikonoklastes tou Buzantiou, pou ksekinhsan apo
th Suria kai alles mesanatolikes perioxes kai isws
ephreasn kai ton Mwame0anismo (pou opws kseroume
einai fobera mimhtikh 0rhskeia, ekleye sxedon ola
ths ta stoixeia apo ton Xristianismo kai ton
Ioudaismo). Auta, kai elpizw na mh me perasete
gia eksupnakia.
Giwrgos (Sask.)