kefap@SX.AC.UK (Petros Kefalas) (02/16/90)
Paroles tis epifulaxeis pou ekfrastikan sti lista gia 0iteia sta 18 (dikaies ws ena simeio), nomizw pws einai mia lusi gia ti meiwsi tou xronou tis 0iteias sto strato gia tou exeis logous: An upo0esoume oti o logos tis makroxronis 0iteias einai oti prepei na uparxei sta0eros ari0mos oplitwn kai epibli0ei upoxrewtiki starteusi sta 18 amesws o ari0mos oplitwn auxanetai kata 30-40,000 (tosos den einai o ari0mos arrenwn pou apofoitoun apo to lukeio?). Auto einai ikano na apolusei allous 30-40,000 strateumenous enw upiretoun to 12o-14o mina tis 0iteias. Kai to pio simantiko, afinei eleu0erous tous 19xronous (meta to stratiwtiko) na apofasisoun gia to poso makroxrones 0a einai kai pou' 0a kanoun tis spoudes tous. Petros (Essex)
vlo@XYDECO.SIEMENS.COM (John Vlontzos) (02/17/90)
Akomh den exw katalavei giati epimenete se YPOXREWTIKH thnteia sta 18. Opoios thelei mporei kai shmera na paei (exete akousei gia ethelontes?). Epimenw na pisteuw pws o kathenas prepei na kanei tis epiloges tou katw apo tis shmerines (realistika) sunthnkes kai na upostei tis sunepeies twn epilogwn. Ta mpalwmata me "euergetikes diataxeis" den exoun nohma. To mono pou vriskw logiko gia tous anupotaktous einai na tous dinetai kanoniko diavathrio kai dikaiwma episkeyhs sthn ellada gia periorismeno xroniko diasthma. Ta peri anagkwn ths xwras gia "uyhlou epipedou" episthmones einai polu amfivola me tis parouses sunthnkes. Ta panepisthmia kurioi (kai kuries) den pasxoun apo proswpiko alla apo lefta kai programma. To mono pou tha prosthesoun oi "kataxiwmenoi" tha einai allh mia phgh paraponwn. Den milaw gia etaireies tou dhmosiou giati prokeitai gia asteies upotheseis texnologika pou pali den exoun toso anagkh proswpikou oso management (pou den dinetai me 12-20 mhnes amisthns thnteias). Oso gia apofugh tou stratou logw karieras/spoudwn, uphrxe h dunatothta na pane osoi epikalountai ta parapanw sto strato PRIN arxisoun kariera kai h diakoph twn spoudwn se kapoio shmeio DEN einai tragiko pragma (edw diakoptoume th zwh mas oloklhrh gia ena PhD). As afhsoume loipon tis ampelofilosofies ki'as doume ta pragmata realistika: 1)An mporeite nomima na glutwsete ton strato, mpravo sas 2) an oxi, frontiste na perasete oso to dunato kalutera 3)an apofasisete na mhn pate strato, mhn paraponieste, kaneis den sas anagkase. 4) Prospathnste na veltiwsete (pws?) tis sunthnkes sto strato, akomh ki'an den exete proswpiko ofelos. Giannhs V Siemens