LEON%tiger@ENG.ENG.OHIO-STATE.EDU (02/16/90)
Filoi tns listas, Edw kai meres logokopoume - kai kamia fora filosofoume - gia eva 0ema pou ksafvika te0nke apo tria pallnkaria, me favera pia, meta tnv telikn tous "protasn", kivntra. Avarwtiomouv edw kai kairo poio eivai to pragmatiko problnma kai n 0esn autwv pou kavouve tnv protasn kai oswv summeteixav stn suzntnsn. Eivai upopsnfioi didaktores n' exouv didaktoriko; Eivai "kataksiwmevoi", nmi-"kataksiwmevoi" n' avaksioi; H exouv eilikrivn dia0esn va suzntnsouv eva (uparkto!) problnma pera apo stevokardes blepseis gia tnv partn tous; Kai graftnkav diafora. Koufies patriwtikes favfares (vai, gia tov Arka lew). Allos xtupaei ta podia tou kai dev paei stov strato. Emeis, ti va kavoume dnladn pou dev 0elei va paei; Kai oi pio polloi eidav to 0ema sav diadikasia taktopoinsns orismevwv ekkremotntwv pou aforouv tous metaptuxiakous tou ekswterikou, avte, kai twv kataksiwmevwv fwstnrwv tns diasporas. Arage poios 0a krivei sto telos-telos tnv aksiwsuvn kapoiou; Kai bebaia kapou xa0nke n ousia evos problnmatos pou eivai politiko (movov apo tov Antwviadn te0nke etsi) kai sav tetoio 0a eprepe va suzntn0ei. Av n protasn twv paidiwv eivai to apokrustallwma tns koubevtas tote krima tnv protasn, krima kai tnv koubevta. Lewvidas
ST401843@BROWNVM.BITNET (thanasis kehagias) (02/16/90)
to mhnuma auto erxetai se apanthsh kuriws tou LEON%tiger ... kai tou
Louka Kallivoka. qelw na echghsw tous logous pou analabame auth thn
prospaqeia. plhn omws, den mporw na milhsw gia tous logous twn allwn
duo sunadelfwn, auto einai diko tous qema. egw qa milhsw gia ton eauto
mou.
o Loukas rwtaei giati nea nomoqesia afou prin duo xronia bghke enas
nomos pou upotiqetai oti qa ruqmize oristika to qema. h apanthsh einai
oti o en logw o nomos apedeixqh entelws anapotelesmatikos. teleutaio
deigma ths anapotelesmatikothtas tou einai oi xqesines ruqmiseis,
pou einai ena akomh angkaio mpalwma, mia pou oloi autoi pou h
anabolh tous teleiwne telos tou 1989 kai den eixan teleiwsei
tis spoudes tous, h eixan douleies h otidhpote tetoio, den eixan
deicei kammia diaqesh na epistreyoun sthn ellada.
proswpika den exw kammia antirrhsh na uphrethsw thn mama ellada,
alla nomizw oti den einai paralogh h apaithsh mou na to kanw me ena
orqologismeno kai apotelesmatiko tropo pou na beltistopoihsei
to ofelos kai pros thn patrida (prwto) kai pros emena (deutero).
kai nomizw oti h protash mas ecuphretei auto ton stoxo.
kai pisteuw oti xreiazetai enas stratologikos nomos pou na trabhcei
to episthmoniko dunamiko apo ecw mesa, me isxura kinhtra.
oloi cerete ta straba kai tou ellhnikou stratou kai tou ellhnikou
kratous genikotera. epishs prepei na sas einai fanero oti
to brain-drain pou xtupaei th xwra mas einai tromero. nomizw
oti an mporesoume na xrhsimopoihsoume to strato san
pathma gia na sugkentrwqei mia krisimh maza sxetika sobarwn
anqrwpwn pou mporei kai na feroun kapoia allagh, h na paragoun kapoio
ergo, qa exoume polu megalutero ofelos para an paratacoume ena akomh
tagma, ante suntagma, fantarwn. epishs, den qelw na fanw elitisths,
alla epitelous o kompiouteras kai o mhxanikos einai auth th
stigmh polu pio anagkaios sthn ellada apo ton agroth, ton udrauliko kai
ton culourgo. oso gia epixeirhmata tou stul "afou oloi oi alloi phgan
strato, qa pas ki esu kolopaido", ta qewrw anacia apanthshs.
parola auta, den eimai akomh sigouros gia thn acia ths protashs mas.
apo th suzhthsh sth lista , proswpika, perimenw duo pragmata:
(1) mia topoqethsh apo tous suzhthtes kai akroates: opws exei
h protash, thn uposthrizete, h oxi? parakalw apanthste
KAI se auto to erwthma otan anaptusete apoyeis.
(2) STOIXEIA pou na uposthrizoun h na antikrououn thn protash.
px. kapoios eipe oti cerei oti h Ellada exei auth th stigmh ellei-
yh ekpaideumenwn texnokratwn pou qa douleyoun se programmata
ths EOK. epishs, euxhs ergon qa htan na cerame kati upeuquno
gia tis amuntikes anagkes ths xwras (posoi fantaroi xreiazontai
se dedomenh stigmh), gia tonm ariqmo twn episthmonwn tou ecwterikou ktl.
egw tetoia stoixeia qelw. oso gia ta "tria palhkaria apo to Brown" kai
alla tetoia, den blaptoun, alla kai den bohqoun.
epanalambanw oti auta einai kaqara proswpikes apoyeis. epishs,
prepei na sas pw oti, sumfwna toulaxisto me tis kainouries ruqmiseis,
den exw anagkh apo epipleon metaboles tou stratwtikou nomou gia merika
xronakia. apo edw bgalte ta sumperasmata sas.
thanasisSOUSSIS@NYUMED.BITNET (02/17/90)
Poies einai oi taleutaies ruthmiseis file Thanasi Kexagia
V999NZWR@UBVMS.BITNET (Vassilios E. Axaris) (02/17/90)
To mavifesto sas kurioi peri stratologikwv ru0misewv mou 0umise diapragmateu- seis taksitzndwv. Olos o dromos dikos mas, xrewvoume oso 0eloume, kai pairvou- me opoiov 0eloume. Eav autn eivai n aksiokratia pou diatumpavizete, tote dev pame va pesoume stnv 0alassa kalutera;! Basilns (buffalo)
LESLIE@WATMTA.UWATERLOO.CA (Nicholas Christoforou) (02/17/90)
Ma poies eivai autes oi x0esives ry0miseis, telospavtwv? Nikos, Waterloo