[bit.listserv.hellas] Fwtografikai mnxavai

TELLY@BMEUCL.MEDCOR.MCGILL.CA (Tilemachos Doukoglou) (02/28/90)

Mia kai legontai diafora as pw aki egw to konto mou kai to makri
>
>Ek twv pragmatwv kserw gia tnv Minolta 7000. Autn apeu0uvotav stous eppavgelma-
>ties apo tnv apopsn oti to swma tns eivai metalliko kai oxi plastiko. Kalo mn-
>xavnma, me polu kalo fwtometro kai poiotnta fakwv. Gia tov erasitexvn ta peris-
>sotera mpixlimpidia tns eivai axrnsta. Meiovektnma tns eivai oti oi autofocus
>(am dev bgazei kai manual re Basiln!) fakoi tns usterouv se focusing taxutnta,

Nomizw oti o Bassilis ennoei thn Minolta 9000 kai oxi thn 7000. Exoume thn 9000
edw sto ergasthrio kai eimaste poly efharisthmenoi. Eixame thn 7000 alla thn
dwsame pisw fian thn 9000 logw merikwn meiwnenktimatwn. Gia thn akribeia h
Minolta den bgazei allo thn 7000 alla thn antikatesthse me thn 7000i pou
xreiazete Bachelor se Computer Science na thn doulepseis. H 9000 exei diafora
mode fotometrichs klp, auto-focus metalico swma, manual film advance (opote egw
me authn tou ergasthriou vgazw 39 slides apo 36 film, ma to kuriwtero einai oti
oi facoi ths minolta einai paravolikoi. Etsi einai mikroi, elafreis kai me
ligotera optica stoixeia katafermoun ta idia epipeda paramorfwshs (distortion)
me palaiwterous facous allwn kalwn etairiwn. Sympwnw oti usterei sthn
taxuthta focusing mia kai to motor brisketai panw sto swma kai oxi sto faco
opws stis EOS 650 klp. Auto shmainei omws oti alles etairies paragoun kalous
kai fthnous facous (i.e. SIGMA) pou kamia fora estiazoun taxutera kai apo
autous ths Minolta. Oi EOS einai epish poly kales mhxanes kai den nomizw
kaneis efkola na mporei na dei pia uperterei.

>H Pentax pou les dev kserw pou katatassetai, alla auto pou kserw eivai oti apo
>tote pou n Asahi efuge apo tnv mesn, oi fakoi Pentax dev eivai oi idioi se poio
   -
>tnta.
>Epeidn kserw oti n Minolta 7000 doulepse swsta kai epeidn dev exw idea gia tnv
>OM-4 fusiko eivai va mnv mporesw va sou pw amerolnpta. Pavtws o kollntos mou
>evgatelleipse tnv Olympus apo tote pou arxise va kavei tnv loksa tou eppavgelma
   .

Me tis Olympus ehw kakh empeiria kai tah synhstousa apofugh tous.

Kata thn gnwmh mou oi kalyteres mhxanes paradosiakou typou einai oi Nikon kai
meta erhonatai oi Pentax. Stis Hi tech mhxanes omws h Minolta kai h Cannon
exoun ta prowreia. Proswpika exw mia Cannon AE-1 kai kanw thn douleia mou.
H A-1 pote den me entipwsiase giati eixe perissotera proframmata (7 an then
kanw lathos) apo osa kaneis xreiazetai pout einai 4 (manual, proterewtita
taxythtas, proteraiothta diafragmatos, kai full program). An loipon o filos
thelei na parei mai mhxanh na kanei thn douleia tou h FM-2 ths Nikon einai
poly kalh an katafereis na thn vreis. Auta gia thn wra kai an kapoios
endiaferetai mporw na tou steilw kai mia lista (nomizw einai
2 xronwn) opou sungrinontai 28 apo ths kaluteres tote mhxanes.

>Basilns (Buffalo).

Filika
Tnlemaxos Doukoglou.

V999NZWR@UBVMS.BITNET (Vassilios E. Axaris) (02/28/90)

> H Pentax Super Program (oxi n program Plus) pou katatasetai ; Sto
> consumer report eida oti oi Pentax exouv ta ligotera failures. Meta n
> OM-4 eivai pragmati oso kaln leve ; Meta eivai kai autn n Minolta
> (vomizw 7000 movtello alla oxi sigouros) me cards kai kalambalikia,
> autn pali ti leei ; Metaksu Minolta kai OM-4 poia kerdizei ;

> Xrnstos

Loipov exoume kai leme, pavta basei twv stoixeiwv mou apo tov kollnto mou, tov
opoio tov 0ewrouv polloi au0evtia sto 0ema.

Ek twv pragmatwv kserw gia tnv Minolta 7000. Autn apeu0uvotav stous eppavgelma-
ties apo tnv apopsn oti to swma tns eivai metalliko kai oxi plastiko. Kalo mn-
xavnma, me polu kalo fwtometro kai poiotnta fakwv. Gia tov erasitexvn ta peris-
sotera mpixlimpidia tns eivai axrnsta. Meiovektnma tns eivai oti oi autofocus
(am dev bgazei kai manual re Basiln!) fakoi tns usterouv se focusing taxutnta,
kai gi' auto o dikos mou tnv poulnse. Nai omws o kollntos bgazei s' eva gamo
5-6 36aria rolla ablepi! Ara dev vomizw oti eseva 0a s' afora n taxutnta autn.
Olympus mnxaves. Para polu kala optika, kai kala fwtometra. Nomizw oti n OM-4
exei spot fwtometro, dnladn fwtometro desmns, dnladn n fwtometrnsn givetai basei
mias desmns gurw stis 5 moires platos sto kevtro tou kavtrav, ev avti0esei tns
fwtometrnsews s' olo to karre kai meta averaging twv timwv.
H Pentax pou les dev kserw pou katatassetai, alla auto pou kserw eivai oti apo
tote pou n Asahi efuge apo tnv mesn, oi fakoi Pentax dev eivai oi idioi se poio-
tnta.
Epeidn kserw oti n Minolta 7000 doulepse swsta kai epeidn dev exw idea gia tnv
OM-4 fusiko eivai va mnv mporesw va sou pw amerolnpta. Pavtws o kollntos mou
evgatelleipse tnv Olympus apo tote pou arxise va kavei tnv loksa tou eppavgelma.

Pavtws eva kserw: otav trabas eva film stnv xasn kai stnv feksn dev aksizei va
dwseis polla lefta kai va exeis spot fwtometra kai muriades programmata gia tov
aploustato logo oti dev 0a ta xrnsimopoinseis pote. Eva allo kritnrio eivai kai
oi times twv perifereiakwv (auta ta computers mou tnv exouv brovtnksei gia ta
kala!) fakwv evvow. P.x. o grafwv kapote pnre mia Nikon mnxavn kai edw kai 10
xrovia dev kator0wse va snkwsei to baros tns timns evos fakou Nikon, `n estw
evos Tamron! Resili twv fwtografwv! :-) Eav eisai tupos pou prosexei ta ergaleia
tou kai erasitexvns tote to plastiko swma mnv se fobnzei. Eav omws skarfalwveis
se bouva kai trabas fwtografies tote 0eleis metaliko swma mnxavns ektos eav 0es
va deis pws eivai mesa...
Koita kai tis Nikon, av kai autes exouv akribous fakous kai mpixlimpidia. Plnrw-
veis ovoma pio polu ap' oti gia alles mnxaves. Kai last but not least koita tnv
EOS. Oles exouv basika ta idia xaraktnristika. Ektos apo kati polu psnla gramma-
ta opws fwtometrnsn off the film plane, spot fwtometro, memory gia diploek0esn
kai tnv upsnln taxutnta tou motordrive.
Auta ta oliga kai aorista eixa va pw epi tou 0ematos. Egw pavtws oti nlektroviko
kai function va balouv pavw sta ergaleia auta, dev allazw tnv FM mou tou 79 me
tipota! Mprouvtzivo swma, metallikoi fakoi, krustalla me epistrwseis magvnsiou
kai xrusou, metalliko kleistro titaviou, ama teleiwsouv oi mpataries dev trexei
tipota, douleuei se subfreezing temperatures, kai bale. Twra oi mnxaves exouv
givei robots. Nomizeis oti trabas fwtografies, evw stnv pragmatikotnta tis tra-
bave autes gia seva! Na n apeleu0erwsn tou av0rwpou pou uposxe0nke n texvologia
mas! :-)
Kaln sas vuxta kai opou diafwveite me ta grafomeva mou, peite mou va sas kerau-
vobolnsw! :-)

Basilns (Buffalo).

ck@REX.CS.TULANE.EDU (Cris Koutsougeras) (02/28/90)

> Ek twv pragmatwv kserw gia tnv Minolta 7000.  ... Kalo mn-
> xavnma, me polu kalo fwtometro kai poiotnta fakwv. Gia tov erasitexvn ta pe

Xmmmm... egw eixa akousei oti oi fakoi tns pasxouv....

> sotera mpixlimpidia tns eivai axrnsta. Meiovektnma tns eivai oti oi autofocus
> (am dev bgazei kai manual re Basiln!) fakoi tns usterouv se focusing taxutnta>
 kai gi' auto o dikos mou tnv poulnse. Nai omws o kollntos bgazei s' eva gamo
> 5-6 36aria rolla ablepi! Ara dev vomizw oti eseva 0a s' afora n taxutnta autn

Ti les ; Exeis akousei gia ta mbalkovia sto Mardi Grass ;  Meta apo
arketn epimovn twv theatwv ta deixvouv gia deuterolepta movo.... avte
va perimeveis esu va estiasei kai va gkriviazeis va ta ksavadeiksouv
giati n mnxavn dev prolabe va estiasei....

> Olympus mnxaves. Para polu kala optika, kai kala fwtometra. Nomizw oti n OM-4
> exei spot fwtometro, dnladn fwtometro desmns, dnladn n fwtometrnsn givetai

Nomiza oti to spot meter eivai to kalutero. Twra bebaia rwtaw giati n
OM-4 eivai palia mnxavn kai n texvologia snmera eivai diaforetikn
(p.x. n 7000). Auto pou rwtaw eivai poso kseperasmevn eivai n OM-4 av eivai.

Xrnstos