[bitnet.swl-l] VOX recorders/SONY747V+SONY 2010

ross@RUTGERS.EDU (01/11/90)

        After reading some discussions on this group concerning voice
activated tape recorders, I purchased a SONY 747V which I am
using with my SONY ICF 2010 receiver.  So far I am very happy with
this unit, but have the following questions.

        I purchased the recommended cable (from the 747V documentation)
which is a cable with attenuator.  It works fine when I connect from
the ext speaker output of the 2010 to the mic input of the 747V.  This
also allows me to adjust the volume of input to the tape.  But when
I tried connecting from the tape output of the 2010 to the 747V, no sound
ever reached the recorder.
        Has anybody ever had success using their tape output on the 2010?
Do I need a different cable?  Would the quality of my tapes be improved
by using this output as opposed to the ext speaker output?  I think I
did see it mentioned in the manual that the output volume of the tape
output couldn't be adjusted.  This might interfere with the voice activation
with a weak signal.

        Thanks for all insights.
--

                        --- Andy Ross ---

Will Martin <wmartin@STL-06SIMA.ARMY.MIL> (01/11/90)

The "tape" output jack on all the Sony radios I know of (2001, 2010,
2002/7600d/2003) is at "mic" (microphone) level. You don't require
any attenuation between that output and the "mike" or "mic" input on
any tape recorder. Therefore, you don't need the special attenuating
cable for that connection; use just a plain ordinary cable to link
the two jacks. (Note: it seems that not all 1/8th" mini-plugs work
well in the Sony radio (and I suppose other products, too) jacks. I
hae several different brands on the patch cords I made up, and some
work better than others. "Working better" means they make good solid
contact, don't pop out if the radio is jostled slightly, and click
into place when the barrel of the plug body hits the side of the radio.
Ones that work poorly slip out easily and sometimes don't "click" into
solid contact. The moral is to try different brands of cables or plugs
[if you fabricate your own].)

Having the "tape" output be at "mic" level instead of a higher "line"
level is actually a good thing and a feature of the Sony radios. This is
because it is far easier to find cheap cassette recorders with a "mic"
jack input than those with a "line" level jack. Thus you can use the
Sony tape output to a wide range of tape machines; I use mine to feed
everything from a $20 GE recorder (and, for that matter, a $4 garage-sale
Panasonic) to a fancy Teac reel-to-reel deck. (On the latter, the
microphone jacks are on the front panel and have their own level
controls, so it is a snap to plug in a shortwave for long-term
unattended taping; if the output was at line level, I'd have to get
access to the rats-nest of wires in the back and unplug some regular
connections, or use a special attenuator of some kind.) Sony did the
right thing when they standardized on mic-level tape outputs.

You CAN find *some* models of ordinary cassette recorders that have
line-level input jacks, and of course all cassette decks for hifi use
have those (rear-panel only, though, on them). But they never were as
common as the models with mic-level inputs only, and it is harder now to
find that kind of machine at all, given the rise of Walkman-style
cassette machines.

So just use a plain cable and save the attenuating one for some other
application in which you want to feed a higher-level signal into your
Sony tape machine mic input.

Regards, Will Martin