[bitnet.swl-l] SWL Program Guide

ralph@RUTGERS.EDU> (01/10/90)

In article <15450@well.UUCP> rh@well.UUCP (Robert Horvitz) writes:

>> listings of broadcasts in English that are usually in the Handbook?

>The best source for information of this type is the "SWL Program
>Guide."  This gives not just the times and frequencies of most of the
>stations audible in North America, but the names of the programs and the
>days of the week they're on.  It's sort of like TV Guide, and is about
>7 times more comprehensive than the listings in MT.

I second the recommendation.  I was definitely planning on including
this one in the welcome message I'm working on.  I got the last
electronic version and printed it out and put it in a folder.  It
stays next to the radio along with the WRTH.  Very handy.  Passport
used to have a blurb from the New York Times or somewhere that
described it as "TV Guide for World Band radio", but if that's what
you're looking for, this beats it seven ways to Sunday.


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Dave Bakken <bakken@ARIZONA.EDU> (01/11/90)

In article <15450@well.UUCP> rh@well.UUCP (Robert Horvitz) writes:
>
>The best source for information of this type is the "SWL Program
>Guide."  This gives not just the times and frequencies of most of the
>stations audible in North America, but the names of the programs and the
>days of the week they're on.  It's sort of like TV Guide, and is about
>7 times more comprehensive than the listings in MT.

Wow - that sounds exactly what I'm looking for.  MT is nice, but their
listings have a lot of frequencies that I can't get.  I don't know if
this is because I'm not on the east coast,  those signals are being
beamed to another part of the world, or MT has stale schedule data.

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Can someone post a sample of what the actual organization looks like?  I'm
sure that many of us would be interested.


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ralph@RUTGERS.EDU> (01/11/90)

In article <16738@megaron.cs.arizona.edu> bakken@megaron.arizona.edu (Dave
 Bakken) writes:
>Wow - that sounds exactly what I'm looking for.  MT is nice, but their
>listings have a lot of frequencies that I can't get.  I don't know if
>this is because I'm not on the east coast,  those signals are being
>beamed to another part of the world, or MT has stale schedule data.

Actually, it's not that you're not on the east coast OR that MT has
stale data, but rather is just a fact of life on shortwave.  Because
of propagation characteristics, antenna headings, the kind of radio
you have, your local environment, the number of sunspots and solar
flares, etc., you're never going to be able to hear all the things
you find in a list.  The lists in MT (or the SWL Program Guide, for
that matter) aren't lists of what's being heard in a general
location (the US, for instance).  They're lists of everything that
you could possibly hear, from a daily powerhouse like the BBC to a
once or twice a year rarity like Bhutan.  They're listed because you
*might* hear them, depending on where you are and the given
circumstances, not because they're necessarily being heard outside
of their immediate target area.

If you want lists of what is actually being heard in something
roughly analogous to "your area", the best source for these are the
logging sections of the bulletins of some of the SWL/DX clubs.  Bob
Horvitz posts the ANARC Club Scan on a bi-monthly basis with the
details of where you can contact the clubs, what their membership
fees are, how much a sample costs, etc.  You might want to sample a
few club bulletins to see if they'll help.


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rjfrey@NYU.EDU> (01/11/90)

In article <3296@cbnewsj.ATT.COM> ralph@lzfme.ATT.COM (Ralph Brandi) writes:
>In article <15450@well.UUCP> rh@well.UUCP (Robert Horvitz) writes:
>
>>The best source for information of this type is the "SWL Program
>>Guide."  ...
>
>I second the recommendation...

Sounds great; does anyone out there have subscription information?  I was very
disappointed to hear that WRTH has discontinued its summary pages of English
language broadcasts.

--- Robert

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mn@BBN.COM> (01/12/90)

In article <16738@megaron.cs.arizona.edu> bakken@megaron.arizona.edu (Dave
 Bakken) writes:
>In article <15450@well.UUCP> rh@well.UUCP (Robert Horvitz) writes:
>>
>>The best source for information of this type is the "SWL Program
>>Guide."  This gives not just the times and frequencies of most of the
>>stations audible in North America, but the names of the programs and the
>>days of the week they're on.  It's sort of like TV Guide, and is about
>>7 times more comprehensive than the listings in MT.
>
>Wow - that sounds exactly what I'm looking for.  MT is nice, but their
>listings have a lot of frequencies that I can't get.  I don't know if
>this is because I'm not on the east coast,  those signals are being
>beamed to another part of the world, or MT has stale schedule data.
>
  If you're in Arizona the west coast skeds and freqs would probably
come in better that transmissions beamed to the east coast.
  In actual practice I'll bet your reception is equally poor for both
coasts' as target areas.

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HAVANAMOON@THINK.COM> (01/12/90)

The discussion about Kraig Krist's SWL Program Guide underscores its
usefulness to those seriously interested in International Broadcasting.  In
response to the request for his address, see the following:

SWL Program Guide
PO Box 472
Annandale, VA  22003

Subscription rate is $14.95, the full year's Guide which includes 3
quarterly updates is $25.00.

Don't miss out on this one - it's comprehensive, timely and well worth
the investment.

Havana Moon's "Los Numeros"

Ken Greer <kgreer%mcnc.org.uucp@BBN.COM> (01/12/90)

In article <25848@cup.portal.com> HAVANAMOON@cup.portal.com (Havana - Moon)
 writes:
>The discussion about Kraig Krist's SWL Program Guide underscores its
>usefulness to those seriously interested in International Broadcasting.  In
>response to the request for his address, see the following:

  So how is this "SWL Program Guide" any better or different than the WRTH
which already has a sked for virtually every station in the world?  Is it
based on monitored reports?

Trying to save a dollar -
Kim Greer
kgreer@mcnc.org.uucp

postmaster@CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (01/13/90)

In article <1578@speedy.mcnc.org>, kgreer@mcnc.org (Ken Greer) writes:

>   So how is this "SWL Program Guide" any better or different than the WRTH
> which already has a sked for virtually every station in the world?  Is it
> based on monitored reports?
>
> Trying to save a dollar -
> Kim Greer
> kgreer@mcnc.org.uucp

The World Radio TV Handbook print schedules given to them near the end of
the year (1989) for the 1990 edition.  These schedules usually change near
the end of March, when the spring broadcasting schedule starts.

The Handbook often will also have Spring (and sometimes Summer) schedules
for stations, and include station addresses, transmitter power, and quite
a bit of addtional useful information.

These other "Guides" offer listings of stations heard in North America.
The listings in Monitoring Times is updated monthly, and contains a wide
variety of SW stations that can be heard in NA, listed by time.  It is
a convient list to have by the radio, in case you want to know what is
on at a certain time.  These "Guides" sort through station's schedules,
determine when broadcasts are aimed to  NA in English, and compile the
lists by time.  They are quite handy.

Kirk Baxter....

ralph@THINK.COM> (01/13/90)

In article <1578@speedy.mcnc.org> kgreer@mcnc.org.UUCP (Ken Greer) writes:

>  So how is this "SWL Program Guide" any better or different than the WRTH
>which already has a sked for virtually every station in the world?  Is it
>based on monitored reports?

The WRTH only lists transmitting schedules, i.e., when a station is
on the air.  They also list addresses and other technical
information.  The SWL Program Guide lists programming schedules,
i.e., what program is on a station at a given time.  It's organized
by day of the week and time, so if, for example, it was 0600
Saturday morning and you wanted to know what was on right now, you
would go to Saturday, and find a bunch of programs listed at 0600
that you could listen to if you found one you were interested in.
Both are very useful.
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