[bitnet.swl-l] Blair Houghton's posting Re: Questions from a novice

ems@BBN.COM> (01/18/90)

In article <5299@buengc.BU.EDU> bph@buengc.bu.edu (Blair P. Houghton) writes:
>In article <37833@apple.Apple.COM> chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) writes:
>>joshi@cs.purdue.EDU (Anupam Joshi) writes:
>>
>>>           1) Is there a difference between SWLing and DXing ? If so, what ?
>
>Well, chuq, since you obviously can't read (the evidence is in
>Anupam's original posting, where he specifically asks people to
>email him the answers to his questions and not to post) it seems
>only fitting that you would have installed your mail-rejector
>to prevent you from being asked to read.
>
>Way to uphold the cause of illiteracy in America, chuq.
>I hope Apple knows that they allow dysfunctional people
>to sully their image with moronic judgmental errors and
>infantile reactions to criticism.  If not, I know where
>they live, and they soon will.

Hello.  I manage the Systems Administrators and Postmaster at Apple.com
(along with other tasks...).  Erik Fair is our Postmaster, and he is
presently on vacation, so I guess I'll have to deal with this.

Yes, we know that Chuq works here.  All Apple employees are allowed
to have accounts if they wish them.  I don't know what 'dysfunctional
people' are.  I am partly deaf, but I don't think that you were talking
about disABLED folks...  I don't think Chuq qualifies for either category,
but that is my personal oppinion.  Your milage may vary.

As for image and 'moronic judgment':  Each Apple person is responsible
for their own postings.  We have no thought police enforcing correctness.
I, personally, think that posting a reply which may be thought to be of
general interest in response to a request for email is OK from time to
time.  It is an individual decision of little importance.
Your posting seems to me to be self descriptive more than it is
descriptive of Chuq's postings; but I may be reading it incorrectly,
please forgive me if I am.

>But here's what you missed:

[ Bulk of automatically bounced mail message deleted.]

>         Golly, chuqqhhhhhch, but the first thing I noticed about our
>         young friend was that he had the gall, the balls, the
>         unmitigated audacity to ask that replies be sent via _e-mail_!
>
>         I mean, the utter nerve of this little non.net.egotist, to
>         presume to deny you and me our Ken-Thompson-given RIGHT to
>         post answers to the simplest questions which thus prove that
>         we are scholars as well as verbal sluices.
>
>                                         --Blair
>                                           "Get a fucking clue, asshole."

Hmm, it would seem to me that your letter is mostly a personal attack
on Chuq and that your posting is mostly another personal attack
due to your mail being bounced.  If this content is representative
of typical mail, I can understand the desire to bounce it.

>From all the evidence I have before me, I see no reason to be critical
of Chuq.  While I don't post as much as he does, and sometimes don't
agree with his positions, his behaviour seems reasonable and his postings
are usually sound.  I plan no action.

(BTW, making the followup line on your posting 'misc.test' was an
 interesting action.  I don't think this topic belongs in the original
 groups you posted to {rec.radio.shortwave,alt.flame} but 'misc.test'
 would also seem to be wrong.)

Having stated my position on Chuq's postings, I will now leave this
discussion (and the FLAME WARS that will undoubtedly follow).  Further
discussion on this topic will take place without my involvement.

If you have further complaints about postings from Apple, please email
them to me for reply and/or disposition.
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I am not responsible nor is anyone else.  Everything is disclaimed.

chguest@BBN.COM> (01/18/90)

PLEASE --  PLEASE --

Leave rec.radio.shortwave out of this.  If you guys want to have a flame
fest then I, and many others on this newsgroup, would greatly appreciate
it if you took it to another more appropriate group.

Simply judging from the text of the posting, it would seem that this
problem started long before r.r.sw was around.
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victor@BBN.COM> (01/18/90)

Could somebody tell me what's this all about? I guess this is the second
Usenet-type of posting. Sure hope we got no more of this, and hope Chuq
will reply directly to Blair.


Victor Menayang         victor@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu        vm@UTXVM.BITNET
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grr@BBN.COM> (01/18/90)

In article <23313@ut-emx.UUCP> victor@walt.cc.utexas.edu (Victor Menayang)
 writes:
> Could somebody tell me what's this all about? I guess this is the second
> Usenet-type of posting. Sure hope we got no more of this, and hope Chuq
> will reply directly to Blair.

There are various long running range wars / personality clashes that tend
to erupt wherever the participants discover each other, without notable
consideration for the readers of the newgroup affected.

Experience suggests the best thing to do is hit your skip/next/kill key
as quickly as possible before getting suckered into the emotional content
of the transaction.  Eventually the noise/stink wanders elsewhere and is
forgotten.

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