jon%vector0@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US (Dazed N. Confused) (05/05/91)
subbarao@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Kartik Subbarao) writes: > [doesn't mind use of hacker as cracker] I mind, since I like saying 'hacker' and not having to explain what I mean. But cracker isn't the right word for a criminal hacker, since cracker has other uses also (ie, one who breaks copy protection on software, esp. games). I think we need a new word for a g0dlike hacker, then everyone will be happy. So what will the lucky word be? sourceror? (bad pun, sorry) wizard? buddha? god? conjuror? bhikku? Thing to note here is, you can choose almost any word and by common usage, it will *gain* the meaning we want. I'm also surprised no one has tried to do this before, since it seems that this is Something That Needs To Be Done. There's already some use of the above words, especially in MUD-like environments, but the usage needs to be a little more mainstream IMHO. > P.S (I'm a EE :-) ) I'm a high school student. So what? P.S (I *will be* an EE :-) ) .----. *-> CONSERVE ENERGY <-* ( ) Jon *-> Kill Yourself <-* ^^::^^ vector0!jon@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US __;:__ ...PacBell.Com!sactoh0!vector0!jon
brendan@CS.WIDENER.EDU (Brendan Kehoe) (05/05/91)
In <Ro7F24w163w@vector0>, jon%vector0@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US writes: >subbarao@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Kartik Subbarao) writes: > > I think we need a new word for a g0dlike hacker, then everyone >will be happy. So what will the lucky word be? > >sourceror? (bad pun, sorry) >wizard? >buddha? >god? >conjuror? >bhikku? Stallman? ;-) -- Brendan Kehoe - Widener Sun Network Manager - brendan@cs.widener.edu Widener University in Chester, PA A Bloody Sun-Dec War Zone "Does this person look relaxed to you? Well, it's actually an experiment of Contour's new 565-E chair!"
okunewck@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Phil OKunewick) (05/07/91)
jon%vector0@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US (Dazed N. Confused) writes: >subbarao@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Kartik Subbarao) writes: > >> [doesn't mind use of hacker as cracker] Obviously not a hacker. Most hackers I know distinguish between themselves and crackers, though it's kind of fun knowing that people wrongly think you're one of "them". > I mind, since I like saying 'hacker' and not having to explain >what I mean. But cracker isn't the right word for a criminal hacker, >since cracker has other uses also (ie, one who breaks copy protection >on software, esp. games). You lose. Breaking copy protection and copying stuff is illegal. However, just about every hacker has tried it at one time or another, usually as an exercise rather than for personal profit. > I think we need a new word for a g0dlike hacker, then everyone >will be happy. So what will the lucky word be? Nope, no new word needed. "Guru" is already in use. >> P.S (I'm a EE :-) ) Yeah, it shows too. ObHack: (Remember guys? We're supposed to post a hack here.) I turned a bunch of thickwire ethernet tranceivers into thinwire transceivers just by replacing the vampire connector with a BNC. True, it's simple; even trivial. But it saved the department a couple thousand dollars.
ropg@ooc.uva.nl (Rop Gonggrijp) (05/08/91)
okunewck@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Phil OKunewick) writes: >> I mind, since I like saying 'hacker' and not having to explain >>what I mean. But cracker isn't the right word for a criminal hacker, >>since cracker has other uses also (ie, one who breaks copy protection >>on software, esp. games). > You lose. Breaking copy protection and copying stuff is illegal. >However, just about every hacker has tried it at one time or another, >usually as an exercise rather than for personal profit. Breaking a copy protection is legal, selling the cracked software isn't, and that is what the whole thing is about: knowledge IS NOT a crime, using it wrongly IS. Oh yeah, a hack: A couple of friends and me just built a receiver that picks up all beeper messages for this entire country. There's a nasty Big Brother application if one would chose to use it in that way. Maybe I'll post all the details to this group at some point, but all is available though the CCIR. -- Rop Gonggrijp (ropg@ooc.uva.nl) is also editor of Hack-Tic (hack/phreak mag.) quote: "We don't care about freedom of the mind, | Postbus 22953 (in DUTCH) freedom of signature will do just fine" | 1100 DL AMSTERDAM Any opinions in this posting are wasted on you | tel: +31 20 6001480
daveh@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Dave Huang) (05/08/91)
In article <*s7Gio?&1@cs.psu.edu>, okunewck@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Phil OKunewick) writes: > You lose. Breaking copy protection and copying stuff is illegal. Actually, it's not... David Huang | Internet: daveh@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu | "Help! My ganglion is UUCP: ...!ut-emx!ccwf.cc.utexas.edu!daveh | stuck in some chewing gum!" America Online: DrWho29 |
jb3o+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jon Allen Boone) (05/09/91)
For more info about beeper messages and scanners, old issues of 2600 speak in depth about it. ob. hack: I can't think of anything that qualifies (in my mind). I hardly think that using thick-wire transievers on a thin-wire ethernet counts. I do that sort of thing every day. ----------------------------------|++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ | "He divines remedies against injuries; | "Words are drugs." | | he knows how to turn serious accidents | -Antero Alli | | to his own advantage; whatever does not | | | kill him makes him stronger." | "Culture is for bacteria." | | - Friedrich Nietzsche | - Christopher Hyatt | -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-