SRCLARK@COLOSPGS.BITNET (Steve Clark) (01/05/90)
Index Number: 6031 Hi, I'm an electrical engineer studying at the University of Colorado at Colorado Springs. I'm trying to research handicapped tools that are available and that are needed. My school has a requirement for graduating engineers to design and realize a significant project to qualify for graduation. There was a recent public challenge by M.I.T. students for all engineers to contribute to handicapped tools (re: Talking Hand et. al.). I would like to survey those who know best what is *really* needed. I know there are controversies about existing products, but I haven't heard what hardware tools (that don't exist) are needed. My limited background also keeps me from knowing what tools do exist. If anyone would like to share their knowledge, expertise or needs, please respond publicly on the echo or privately by e-mail to me. I will summarize if the response demands. Remember, anything that can be dreamed can be realized. Steve
Paul.Hamlet@f19.n114.z1.fidonet.org (Paul Hamlet) (01/10/90)
Index Number: 6170 Steve- I use a power wheelchair and hoist on the back of my truck. I'm 40, developed some serious neurological disfunction at 33. As an example, I've had problems with the hoist and have been frustrated by the hoist manufacturer's attitude. I hold a BS in construction and am currently a master's candidate in industrial technology. I say this to support my position that I'm qualified to talk about technical problems and their solutions. But they don't need to rely on these devices, so a failure doesn't pose the consequences for them that it does for me. As a response to your request, I'll be happy to provide advice. I am sysop on fidonet 114/19. [The fidonet phone number is: (602) 488-1345 and runs from 9PM to 6 AM, Arizona time. Baud rate is 2400. Bill McGarry] -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!114!19!Paul.Hamlet Internet: Paul.Hamlet@f19.n114.z1.fidonet.org
Jack.O'keeffe@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Jack O'keeffe) (01/10/90)
Index Number: 6177 SC> From: SRCLARK@COLOSPGS.BITNET (Steve Clark) SC> Message-ID: <9347@bunker.UUCP> SC> Index Number: 6031 SC> I'm an electrical engineer studying at the University of SC> Colorado at Colorado Springs. I'm trying to research SC> handicapped tools that are available and that are needed. Steve, if you'd like a really challenging project that would fill a void and help - literally - millions, try your hand at a large vocabulary, speaker independent, speech-to-text translator. Some work in this area is ongoing at CMU and elsewhere, but most of what has been produced misses the mark. I'm not concerned with voice command applications. Visualize a system that would permit one to speak into an ordinary voice telephone, and have a computer translate text on a screen. I am aware of the little constrained vocabulary trainable systems that exist now. But they are of but trivial value to hearing impaired people. One approach might be to digitize the voice waveform, perform a fast fourier transform to extract components in speech range, try to match phonemes and lookup words. But doing this in realtime on anything less than a Cray would be challenging. Maybe you can think of a fresh approach and become famous! Good luck on your project, and keep us posted on your progress. Jack. ... Live, from Beaver County, it's . . . . -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!26!Jack.O'keeffe Internet: Jack.O'keeffe@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org
PANDORA.NIGH@f532.n157.z1.fidonet.org (PANDORA NIGH) (01/12/90)
Index Number: 6195 Hi Steve, I'm not sure what you want to classify as "tools", but I can tell you somethings that I would love to see. I would love a hand scanner that can read characters (ocr) that could be used by people with limited and shakey hand control that also is in a price range that the disabled could afford. I would like a battery operated screwdriver that has a Tbar or strap handle that would make it easy to hold and use. I would love kitchen cupboards where the bottom shelf would slide out and rise up. I would like a light switch that can be voice command specific, such as saying light on, light off instead of the lame ones they sell in the stores that respond to any loud noise at all. Pandora -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!157!532!PANDORA.NIGH Internet: PANDORA.NIGH@f532.n157.z1.fidonet.org
Al.Manning@f223.n163.z1.fidonet.org (Al Manning) (01/12/90)
Index Number: 6223 I am going to have to do some digging (or hope Julius sees this post because I forget the systems name) but there is a voice activation system availaable in Ottawa that will: recognize a number of voices controle modules (avail from Radio Shack among others) to turn light on or off or dim, turn computer on or off, open doors etc It uses off the shelf components, mostly American I think. The controle unit is pricy though about $2200.00 canadian. It very good for severly hadicapped to be ble to say *FRED* or whatever name you give your system, TELEVISION ON or FRED COMPUTER ON or whatever piece of electrical household equipment you have fitted with a contole module. It is not a cheap system but it works exceptionaly well -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!163!223!Al.Manning Internet: Al.Manning@f223.n163.z1.fidonet.org
Ron.Rothenberg@f460.n101.z1.fidonet.org (Ron Rothenberg) (01/13/90)
Index Number: 6228 PN> would like a battery operated screwdriver that has a Tbar or PN> strap handle that would make it easy to hold and use. I would PN> love kitchen cupboards where the bottom shelf would slide out PN> and rise up. Hi Pandora, these exist. I've seen the strap on screwdriver in a catalogue. Will post details next time I come across it. Shelves that slide out and up should be available at hardware, kitchen or office furniture stores. -rsr- ... It is better to be rich and healthy than poor and sick-D. Barry's Mom -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!101!460!Ron.Rothenberg Internet: Ron.Rothenberg@f460.n101.z1.fidonet.org
Julius@f223.n163.z1.fidonet.org (Julius) (01/17/90)
Index Number: 6269 Are you talking about the system that PC Home Automation sells? It's called 'Butler Package' and costs $2,595.00 Canadian. The guy at the store told me $2,200.00 but in the brochure he gave me it's listed for $2,595.00. It's a super device. I have seen it work. I think it is a worthwhile investment especially for quads. As Al said it can turn on and off lights, radios, TV, and other appliances. It has a telephone directory memory capability, so you just tell it to phone a person, and it looks up the number and makes the call. It even hangs up when you request it. It is also very polite. It says please and thank you and does everything right away not like your husband or wife. <grin> -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!163!223!Julius Internet: Julius@f223.n163.z1.fidonet.org
Greg.Wick@f5.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Greg Wick) (01/17/90)
Index Number: 6270 well i an a C-5 quad and can't open or close my hands. i have tryed other types of splints but they are vary big ugly and hard to use. the main one for someone like me is called a rachit splint. what it does is you slide a lever forward to open your hand and push in a button to have a spring close it. wait i have that backwards. but anyway i can't reach my hand with the splint out then reach out with my other hand to close it. i am not strong enogh to do that. what i have ask for but told they can't make i know they could is a splint that would open on close my thumb and first two fingers by putting my arm out palms up would open it then when i turn my hand palms down it would close. that way tha harder i try to turn my hand the stronger the grip. even though it want be that strong i could pick up a sandwich some chips etc. it could have a small spot on the palm of it to clip in a fork and spoon. right now i have to change splint to eat type on the computer and brush my teeth. remember the smaller and lighter the better. good luck -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!343!5!Greg.Wick Internet: Greg.Wick@f5.n343.z1.fidonet.org
PANDORA.NIGH@f532.n157.z1.fidonet.org (PANDORA NIGH) (01/17/90)
Index Number: 6287 Hi Al, in regard to environmental control systems I think that you have me confused with someone else needing some info. I have the addresses and info for several manufacturers of such systems, albeit I would love to see someone come up with one in a more realistic price range. For tools I would love to see a hand held OCR scanner that didn't run a couple thousand dollars and would be easy to manipulate with hand and motor impairement. I tried a friends Scan Man and it was not overly effective for me because of the unsteadyness and inability I had of moving it smoothly and in a straight line up and down. If someone could come up with a OCR in the price range of the Scan man and have it less sensitive to extra motion it would be great. I remember a device that came out over 15 years ago called an Opticon. This was a hand held scanner that would scan any type of text or simple line drawings and convert that info into vibrations on a series of wires that formed the letters onto your fingertip. The Opticon then cost only $300 and was quite an advance in technology. I wonder why they can not build off of that and come up with one that reads character to the computer and maintains a reasonable cost. Pandora -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!157!532!PANDORA.NIGH Internet: PANDORA.NIGH@f532.n157.z1.fidonet.org
PANDORA.NIGH@f532.n157.z1.fidonet.org (PANDORA NIGH) (01/17/90)
Index Number: 6288 Hi Ron, after that post my copy of Accent on Living arived and I saw and ad for modified kitchen cupboards. I have contacted the company and am waiting for the specifications and the price on the system. I have a terrible feeling that the cost will be sky high. The company offers systems that operate off of a control panel on the counter or off of your wheelchair and will lower the upper shelves, raise the lower shelves and can raise and lower the whole counter system such as the area of the sink. Will let you know how the price runs and the other info I get when it arrives. Pandora -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!157!532!PANDORA.NIGH Internet: PANDORA.NIGH@f532.n157.z1.fidonet.org
Eric.Bohlman@p1.f778.n115.z1.fidonet.org (Eric Bohlman) (01/19/90)
Index Number: 6336 PN> I remember a device that came out over 15 years ago called an PN> Opticon. This was a hand held scanner that would scan any type of text PN> or simple line drawings and convert that info into vibrations on a PN> series of wires that formed the letters onto your fingertip. The PN> Opticon then cost only $300 and was quite an advance in technology. I PN> wonder why they can not build off of that and come up with one that PN> reads character to the computer and maintains a reasonable cost. I think the price was closer to $3000. In the early 80's the VA helped out with a project by TSI (makers of the Optacon) to provide it with speech output. Nothing ever came of it; apparently TSI put all their efforts into trying to make the speech sound natural and it wasn't until the last minute that they realized that the camera they were using didn't have enough resolution for OCR. The VA also commissioned a project to provide the Optacon with tonal output (similar to the Stereotoner). A few prototypes were built, but NO documentation was produced and the project died. -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!115!778.1!Eric.Bohlman Internet: Eric.Bohlman@p1.f778.n115.z1.fidonet.org