Les.Barr@f41.n147.z1.fidonet.org (Les Barr) (02/12/90)
Index Number: 6680
[Do you think that this article is going to start the whole advertisement
issue up again? (Actually the original discussion is still going strong.)
Bill ]
I received a call from the ARKENSTONE Headquarters about 10 minutes
ago, to inform me of a new special deal!
We are now offering the Hewlett Packard ScanJet, regular price of
$995.00, at a very special rate of $0.00! That's right, anyone
purchasing an ARKENSTONE Model E or Model S, can have a Hewlett
Packard ScanJet included at no extra cost. This is to help those
who do not already have an ARKENSTONE, to get one. (Real nifty
deal!!!)
This is a very limited time offer, as we only have 100 HP ScanJets
to give away, so if you are considering purchasing an ARKENSTONE,
now is the time to do it before you miss out!!!
We can only sell the ARKENSTONE OCR to those who are blind or
"print handicapped," at the special rate, so if you decide to order
direct from me, I will need these three items from you with your
order:
1. Verification of your "print handicap"
2. Program agreement - - Affidavit stating you do not already have a scanner, and if you get another scanner within 12 months, you will send the ScanJet back.
3. Check, money order, etc. for $2,244.00 for ARKENSTONE Model S/AT
$3,244.00 for ARKENSTONE Model E/AT,
$2,999.00 for Model S/MCA (If you own a PS II Micro-Channel)
$3,744.00 for ARKENSTONE Model E/MCA (PS II Micro-channel systems.)
If you are an organization or company, you are allowed a maximum of
three (3) ScanJets.
If you wish to contact me, or send me your order, here is my phone
numbers and mailing address:
Les Barr
2389 Heatherfield Lane
Norman, OK 73071
(405) 364-9442
24 hour data line: (405) 366-1449
* *Note: I know of at least one organization who is purchasing 20
ARKENSTONE's, and three individuals, who will take advantage of
this limited offer. This offer is currently being made available
to individuals nationally and internationally, as you are reading
this, so time is of the essence!!! Only 96 Scanners left!
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Internet: Les.Barr@f41.n147.z1.fidonet.orgCurtis.Oglesby@p13.f1.n360.z1.fidonet.org (Curtis Oglesby) (02/13/90)
Index Number: 6743
LB> I received a call from the ARKENSTONE Headquarters about 10 minutes
LB> ago, to inform me of a new special deal!
LB> We are now offering the Hewlett Packard ScanJet, regular price of
LB> $995.00, at a very special rate of $0.00! That's right, anyone
LB> purchasing an ARKENSTONE Model E or Model S, can have a Hewlett
LB> Packard ScanJet included at no extra cost. This is to help those
LB> who do not already have an ARKENSTONE, to get one. (Real nifty deal!!!)
LB> This is a very limited time offer, as we only have 100 HP ScanJets
LB> to give away, so if you are considering purchasing an ARKENSTONE,
LB> now is the time to do it before you miss out!!!
LB> * *Note: I know of at least one organization who is purchasing 20
LB> ARKENSTONE's, and three individuals, who will take advantage of
LB> this limited offer. This offer is currently being made available to
LB> individuals nationally and internationally, as you are reading this,
LB> so time is of the essence!!! Only 96 Scanners left!
I agree we should allow advertising but this "ad" has the tone of
tv commercials for the local used car dealers or late, late night
tv! Is it a real honey of a deal, Les? Does it slice and dice?
Are your operators waiting to take our calls? Geez, Les. Give us
a break!
Curt
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Internet: Curtis.Oglesby@p13.f1.n360.z1.fidonet.orgRon.Rothenberg@f460.n101.z1.fidonet.org (Ron Rothenberg) (02/13/90)
Index Number: 6752
LB> I received a call from the ARKENSTONE Headquarters about 10
LB> minutes ago, to inform me of a new special deal!
LB>
LB> We are now offering the Hewlett Packard ScanJet, regular price
LB> of $995.00, at a very special rate of $0.00! That's right,
LB> anyone purchasing an ARKENSTONE Model E or Model S, can have a
LB> Hewlett Packard ScanJet included at no extra cost. This is to
LB> help those who do not already have an ARKENSTONE, to get one.
LB> (Real nifty deal!!!)
LB> This is a very limited time offer, as we only have 100 HP
LB> ScanJets to give away, so if you are considering purchasing an
LB> ARKENSTONE, now is the time to do it before you miss out!!!
Special note to anyone replacing an old scanner: I am looking to buy a
flatbed full-page scanner - preferably used (unless Les can get me a
good deal on just the scanner.) Would prefer a HP Scanjet or Scanjet+,
but will consider other brands. OCR software desirable but not
necessary.
Leave message here or call me at
(617) 489-2320
-rsr-
... Most Improved BBSer (1989) American Sighted BSers' Association.
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Internet: Ron.Rothenberg@f460.n101.z1.fidonet.orgWalter.Siren@f8.n396.z1.fidonet.org (Walter Siren) (02/13/90)
Index Number: 6765 >: I agree we should allow advertising but this "ad" has the tone of tv >: commercials for the local used car dealers or late, late night tv! Is it a >: real honey of a deal, Les? Does it slice and dice? Are your operators >: waiting to take our calls? Geez, Les. Give us a break! That is a matter of oppinion. Personally I was glad that Les posted this ad. I was interested in buying an arkenstone, but I was not in a hurry to make my purchase, since I was investagating all of my options. However, this saving made a difference, and made me get on the ball. If he had not posted this ad, I would not have known about this deal. Is it advertising, when someone tells you that a company has made a donation that you can take advantage of. Walter -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!396!8!Walter.Siren Internet: Walter.Siren@f8.n396.z1.fidonet.org
Les.Barr@p0.f41.n147.z1.fidonet.org (Les Barr) (02/13/90)
Index Number: 6768 Curtis Oglesby writes: > LB> I received a call from the ARKENSTONE Headquarters about 10 > minutes LB> ago, to inform me of a new special deal! > > > LB> We are now offering the Hewlett Packard ScanJet, regular price of > LB> $995.00, at a very special rate of $0.00! That's right, anyone > LB> purchasing an ARKENSTONE Model E or Model S, can have a Hewlett > LB> Packard ScanJet included at no extra cost. This is to help those > LB> who do not already have an ARKENSTONE, to get one. (Real nifty > deal!!!) > > LB> This is a very limited time offer, as we only have 100 HP ScanJets > LB> to give away, so if you are considering purchasing an ARKENSTONE, > LB> now is the time to do it before you miss out!!! > > > LB> * *Note: I know of at least one organization who is purchasing 20 > LB> ARKENSTONE's, and three individuals, who will take advantage of > LB> this limited offer. This offer is currently being made available > to LB> individuals nationally and internationally, as you are reading > this, LB> so time is of the essence!!! Only 96 Scanners left! > > > I agree we should allow advertising but this "ad" has the tone of tv > commercials for the local used car dealers or late, late night tv! Is > it a real honey of a deal, Les? Does it slice and dice? Are your > operators waiting to take our calls? Geez, Les. Give us a break! > > > Curt Thanks Curtis, appreciate the effort you put in your messages! >GRIN< Actually, I have refrained from placing such "advertisements" in Abled up to this point, but those of us who are "reading impaired," can appreciate a good deal, as adaptive equipment is generally too expensive for most of us to afford. Usually what occurs is they place the lable "adaptive equipment," on it and multiply the price twice. In the case of the ARKENSTONE however, because we are "reading handicapped," we are Able to afford this OCR at less than what the "normal" market place pays for the same equipment, only they use theirs for decorating magazines, ads, and the like, while we "reading handicapped," use it for reading. 0 Dollars is a great price for a $1,000. piece of equipment, and if I had known about this opportunity, I would now be $1,000.00 richer. There is an old saying, "Opportunity only knocks once," and this is one of those times. If you wish to stare a gift horse in the mouth, that is your business, but I do appreciate your giving me this extra "air-time" in Abled, because it probably would've gone unnoticed if it hadn't been for your response. Have a good one, -Les BTW, To answer your question, yes it is really a good deal, and this is a very limited offer. Hopefully my attemped informative messages will afford someone t ability to read print, who wouldn't have ordinarilly been able. Hence, the name, 'ABLED!' That's what we're all about here, after all! TTYL, -Les -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!147!41.0!Les.Barr Internet: Les.Barr@p0.f41.n147.z1.fidonet.org
Les.Barr@f41.n147.z1.fidonet.org (Les Barr) (02/27/90)
Index Number: 6961
In a message of <21 Feb 90 12:05:18>, Pat Goltz (1:300/3) writes:
PG-"Bravo! Your message to Les Barr in response to his personal attack. I
PG-"always get so hurt that I can't respond like that.
PG-" I think the points you raise against the ad were valid. It's too bad
PG-"that Les has chosen to concentrate on personalities rather than the
PG-"issues you raised.
You raise a good point here Pat, and I did consider this after I
had gotten over the initial shock of being attacked for an earlier
post attempting to let people know about the good deal ARKENSTONE
was letting we "print impaireds" in on. However, sometimes the
best of us allow things to slip away from us; hence, missing the
actual point.
I also sometimes forget that others do not have the same
experiences I do; therefore, I pressume they should understand what
I am saying is true. (I don't believe any of us like to have our
word questioned, and I apologize for allowing myself to react in
this manner to such.)
Back to the initial point, if anyone can come up with a product of
this nature that is more accurate as an OCR (optical character
reader) and can beat the price of a $2,244.00 OCR package with the
free HP ScanJet Scanner, I will apologize for all statements that
are inaccurate about this being a great deal. However, once the
research is completed, and those who take this challenge find that
I am accurate in my urgings, I ask only that they post a message
here stating their findings. (No apology required, affirmation
will suffice!)
I truly believe this is the best equipment for optical character
reading out there, and anyone whom researches optical character
readers will find none better than the ARKENSTONE.
BTW, I purchased my ARKENSTONE in December and paid full price for
my package. If I had waited one more month, I might have been able
to take advantage of receiving a free Hewlett Packard ScanJet
Scanner. (My hope is that someone here can have access to
something I missed out on, so I will at least know someone who got
a free scanner!!!)
Sincerly,
Les Barr
'the Handyman Sysop'
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Index Number: 6971
PG> It was quite interesting to me that after I told you I agree with
PG> you completely, another person here said that he had decided to buy
PG> the ARKENSTONE under the special offer. So it served someone after
PG> all! Oh well, live and learn. Perhaps guidelines in writing
PG> promotions would be a good idea. Simply announcing the availability
PG> without the hype would seem to be the way to go.
Well, I never commented on whether the Arkenstone was good or bad.
I don't know if it is or not, but that really wasn't the point.
Leaving out the hype was the point.
Curt
BTW, if it is a good product, then others should know about it.
Hopefully, those who have direct experience with it will give us
their opinion. An unbiased opinion would be very helpful.
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Internet: Curtis.Oglesby@p13.f1.n360.z1.fidonet.orgMarda.Anderson@p0.f4.n393.z1.fidonet.org (Marda Anderson) (03/03/90)
Index Number: 7065
Personally, I am very glad that Les posted his announcement of the
Arkenstone. I have been wanting to purchase one for a long time. It
has been proven to be a very good product and does indeed do as Les
says it does. This special deal really is a good thing for those of us
who could not normally afford to purchase such equipment and such
equipment does serve to increase the independence of visually impaired
people in all sorts of ways. It is exciting to me that I will probably
now be able to buy this system and will be able to access my personal
mail, affording me the dignity of privacy which I have always so
desperately craved. It is exciting that I will be able to have timely
access to such things without having to wait for someone's convenience
to read things to me. The possibilities for increasing my ability to
function on an equal level with sighted classmates, without having to
scrounge up readers or wait months for books to be put on tape, is
awesome to think about. Certainly, this system does not totally
eliminate the need for people ot help look up things in the library and
stuff like that. But this technology does indeed hold a lot of promise
for us and the Arkenstone is, from the research I've done, the one
that seems to be the greatest value for the money. It really does seem
to have advantages over more expensive machines as well. I find it
interesting that Les cross posted his original announcement in both
this echo and in blinktalk. IN blinktalk, the announcement was warmly
received because everybody there appreciated the value of the equipment
and the intent of the message, to get the equipment to as many visually
impaired people as possible who wouldn't perhaps be able to get it
otherwise. I didn't see any hype in that message. I knew enough
already about the equipment to know he was telling the truth and I saw
his motives. It disturbs me to think that something like that would
generate such controversy in an echo where we're supposed to be helping
each other.
marda
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