[misc.handicap] CP RELATIONSHIPS

rocker@eve.wright.edu (Ronnie Peugh) (02/09/90)

Index Number: 6617

I am a senior here at Wright State.  Here at WSU and we have a
rather large hindicapped/disabled population.  I'd imagine that
there is at least one person with almost every condition (CP, MD,
MS, deaf, blind...).  I have notice that people with CP are usually
without a special person in their lives.  I know several MDs who
have been romanticly envolved for several years.  There are also
several quads (high quad, ie. limited use of arms and hands) who
have someone to share their life with.  However, rarely do CPs meet
people who will even consider going out with them on one date.  I
am not putting others (MDs quads, ect) down, but this seems
backwards.  I mean that in many cases MDs and quads need more
assistance and aren't able to do as much as CPs.

I find it interresting, but FUSTRATING, that all my life I have
gotten along with girls/women very well, but only once, way back in
6th grade, did any of them look at me as a male (rather than an
"it" - as I feel like now)

I was just wondering if there are any CPs on the net who have meet
someone and have been involved in a relationship.  How did you meet?
How did they first react to your handicap?

Ronnie

P.S.	My friends are MDs and quads and I am happy for them, so don't
	FLAME ME
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era@ncar.ucar.edu (Ed Arnold) (02/22/90)

Index Number: 6890

In article <10240@bunker.UUCP> Dave.West.@hnews.fidonet.org writes:
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|RP> From: rocker@eve.wright.edu (Ronnie Peugh)
|RP> Message-ID: <10018@bunker.UUCP>
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|RP> I find it interresting, but FUSTRATING, that all my life I have
|RP> gotten along with girls/women very well, but only once, way back in
|RP> 6th grade, did any of them look at me as a male (rather than an
|RP> "it" - as I feel like now)
|RP> I was just wondering if there are any CPs on the net who have meet
|RP> someone and have been involved in a relationship.  How did you meet?
|RP> How did they first react to your handicap?
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|I agree with you Ron. I have cerebal palsy and have gotten the same
|treatment from females.

Did either of you see "My Left Foot"?  There are some poignant scenes
in this movie, in which Christy Brown deals with the problem you describe.
If you haven't seen it, by all means try to.

The message I got from the movie is that people with disabilities have
to make an extraordinary effort to get the things "normal" people take
for granted: including displaying extraordinary levels of personality,
and possibly using (what most people would consider) offensive tactics
to break through the "wall" which "normal" people put up.
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Greg.See-Kee@p0.f404.n714.z3.fidonet.org (Greg See-Kee) (02/28/90)

Index Number: 6984

 J> It depends on his personality on how
 J> well he is liked.  At least that's what I keep telling my 
son who
 J> has C.P.

Agreed.  In the 5 years before my own accident, I worked with the
Australian Quadriplegic Association (AQA)

As a "replacement" for the arms & legs of a man (muscular
atrophy) and a woman (CP), I helped them experience their first
double bed, their marriage, their parenthood to two teenage
children (from her previous marriage to a bus driver working at
the Spastic Centre of NSW), and their adjustment in living
arragements.

When I met them, they each had single beds in a nursing home, and
were unemployed.  AQA then gave them their first "proper" (not
sheltered) jobs.

After the nursing home, came the AQA shared-house, then there own
rented house, then their own purchased house.

Other contributing factors: strong support from their
upper-middle class families, very skilled staff at AQA (myself
included), International Year for Disabled Persons, plus fairly
high natural intelligence, especially in the man.

Which goes to support my observation -- advanced post-industrial
societies value people for their number one asset.

That asset is not just immitating the robots and machinery that
we now have.  Our No. 1 Asset is the natural intelligence.  With
this intelligence, we can them work smoothly, coordinating the
robots & machinery around us.

As Japan is now showing the world, the path to national wealth is
the ability to work smoothly & cooperatively with other people.
Be sensitive to their needs, their tastes.  Go out of your way to
conform to THEIR ways of operating in the world.

PEOPLE SKILLS are the No.1 Asset.   Whatever you do, though,
don't give yourself brain damage.  Even with temporary brain
damage (induced very easily with alcohol), you will be doing
things to ruin the relationships with your environment.  You
might not remember it at the time, but your brain damage also
damaged your environment.

ps: I now have permanent brain damage.

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Laura.Irby@f260.n271.z1.fidonet.org (Laura Irby) (03/16/90)

Index Number: 7175

I know that there is a "Head Injury" organization in the U.S., is there 
a comparable org. for quad.s in the U.S.....a linking arm?

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