Floria.Antin@f304.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Floria Antin) (05/31/90)
Index Number: 8548 > Which is one of the reasons why DISABILITY GRIEVING is far worse > than BEREAVEMENT GRIEVING. > But with DISABILITY, nothing stays the same. Our bodies change > in time. Government legislation, he cost and availability of > gadgets, new techniques, etc. > Many of the older folk here are much closer to Death than young > people like me. Because they can so so very certain and so very > confident, their outlook on Disability is very different from us > younger people. Disability often lasts a lifetime. I disagree strongly with your statement of older folks visa vis younger folks. Many of us older folks were younger folks once also and those of us who have children with disabilities have fought and are still fighting noiw that our children are grown for more and better services. Today many of our children (I am the parent of an adult child with mental retardation) are living in the community and not warehoused in some large institution. Unfortunately we still have to keep fighting for needed services and for a plan to reduce the waiting lists. Just because we are older does not mean that we are not fighting for a fairer deal for all with disabilities. I was asked by my local chapter of the Association for Retarded Citizens (ARC) to call my representive in Congress and to thank her for her support of ADA and to urge her to be against any weakening amendments. There are many people who have not had a college or university educatiion who are just as bright and informed (sometimes more so) thanthose with degrees. Yes I have studied foreign languages and I have also lived abroad. -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!109!304!Floria.Antin Internet: Floria.Antin@f304.n109.z1.fidonet.org
era@ncar.ucar.edu (Ed Arnold) (06/01/90)
Index Number: 8556 In article <12011@bunker.UUCP> Greg.See-Kee@f631.n712.z3.fidonet.org writes: >Index Number: 8446 > >Which is one of the reasons why DISABILITY GRIEVING is far worse >than BEREAVEMENT GRIEVING. Agreed. >Many of the older folk here are much closer to Death than young >people like me. Because they can so so very certain and so very >confident, their outlook on Disability is very different from us >younger people. Don't flatter yourself, Greg. People who have reached the age of 40 aren't young. (Speaking from the perspective of one who is about your age.) But ... why do you say that older folk are so very certain and confident? Wherever did you get that idea? I'm reminded of a famous psychiatrist/philosopher who, in his autobiography, declared that as he reached old age (his 80s), there was virtually *nothing* of which he was sure. Perhaps older people are just better at bluffing others into thinking that they're certain? -- Ed Arnold * NCAR * POB 3000, Boulder, CO 80307-3000 * 303-497-1253(w) era@ncar.ucar.edu [128.117.64.4] * era@ncario.bitnet * era@ncar.uucp "See, the human mind is kind of like ... a pinata. When it breaks open, there's a lot of surprises inside." --Jane Wagner/Lily Tomlin