Ann.Parsons@f204.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Ann Parsons) (06/28/90)
Index Number: 8929 Hi Old Curmudgeon, >>>" 1) Clear communication >" AP>> This isn't just a prerequisite for dealing with attendants, but is AP>> one for just plain living. >" >"Which demostrates your limited experience with disabled people. >"My speech can sound as bad and crazy as a spastic's speech. Did I say speech? I said communication! Who the hell cares how one communicates, so long as it's clear and concise. You can say volumes with a raised eyebrow! Besides, I am right here. So much trouble in this world is caused by miscommunication. Look at the divorce rate. Look and see how many wars there are. Look at the damage parents sometimes do to their kids All this is caused by miscommunication!!!! If people, I don't except myself here, would just (((LISTEN!!!!!!!!!))) >>>" 2) Naming EVERYTHING in "words". Not even ABs (able-bodieds) >>>" need to do this. >" AP>> Not sure what you mean here >" >"Try explaining how to tie a shoelace - words only. Ok, I see now. Yes, you are right here. But a little careful thought should suffice. AP>> Why don't you sign your posts? <grin> >" >"Too busy. Too many commitments & responsibilities. hahahahahahaha!!!! That's the lamest excuse I've heard in a long time, you old Curmudgeon. <guffaw> Ann P. -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!260!204!Ann.Parsons Internet: Ann.Parsons@f204.n260.z1.fidonet.org
Hot.Wheels@p1.f700.n12.z1.fidonet.org (Hot Wheels) (07/18/90)
Index Number: 9203
GS> Which demostrates your limited experience with disabled people.
GS> My speech can sound as bad and crazy as a spastic's speech.
What are you talking about? I have Cerebral Palsy. My speech isn't normal..
I guess you could say it's "spastic", but I direct my care very well thank
you.
There's another guy in this building who is non-verbral. He
directs his care with a spelling. Does better than some quads with
perfect speech.
Scott
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Internet: Hot.Wheels@p1.f700.n12.z1.fidonet.orgBill.Freads@f700.n12.z1.fidonet.org (Bill Freads) (07/18/90)
Index Number: 9207 > BF> I have to be able to live with myself and the rest of the world, > And, if might say so, doing a very good job at it, too. Thanks Betty, unfortunately I'm an old Coot of 59 and I usually speak my mind, never made me any friends, but then, what the hell, you know, before I hit the Wheelschair, I was deterimined I would do away with myself, I simply couldn't see myself in a Wheelchair contraption and face the people that I know, well... I thought about it more and more and decided, "If people don't like me the way I am, then they're not worth knowing to begin with." sonow I'm somewhat handicapped, still doing most of the things that I used to be able to do, only some of the things have changed, so no big deal, as long as I have my independance and can still look after myself, I shall forever be gratefull, I have a hell of a lot of respect for those people that need attendant care to be able to carry on a somewhat independant lifestyle in their own apartment, they seem to be able to cope just fine, so what in hell have I got to complain about? NOTHING... compared to them, I'm able bodied, although some of the eternal pain can at times send you right up the wall, so... Who would I be to complain about my condition when so many are worse off than me and they do damn little to complain. Cheers. Bill -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!12!700!Bill.Freads Internet: Bill.Freads@f700.n12.z1.fidonet.org
Greg.See-Kee@f631.n712.z3.fidonet.org (Greg See-Kee) (07/18/90)
Index Number: 9221 >There's another guy in this building who is non-verbral. He >directs his care with a spelling. Does better than some quads >with perfect speech. Yes, I noticed the same thing with my "clients" when I was employed for five years before my accident, at the Australian Quadriplegic Association. Unknown to most people, it is not the speech apparatus, nor the mouth-stick which upsets communication between people. It is due to the PSYCHOLOGICAL HEALTH of the person. As you & everyone in this conference has seen, my brain damage (and the resultant loss of psychological health) is far more damaging than any damage to the peripheral nervous system (including spinal cord) or the body components. ... c:\dos\@sign.lis -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!3!712!631!Greg.See-Kee Internet: Greg.See-Kee@f631.n712.z3.fidonet.org