Ron.Rothenberg@f460.n101.z1.fidonet.org (Ron Rothenberg) (06/28/90)
Index Number: 8954 EA> chances of being disabled. 3) Of course, little kids, and EA> mothers with strollers, love them. EA> When things are designed with disability in mind, they tend to EA> be more useful for everyone. Most people love them, actually. Watch some busy corner some day and see how many AB's use the curb cuts. Barrier-free design is good design! -rsr- ... Be yourself. Who is better qualified? -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!101!460!Ron.Rothenberg Internet: Ron.Rothenberg@f460.n101.z1.fidonet.org
Stu.Turk@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Stu Turk) (07/11/90)
Index Number: 9092 > From: cas@mtdcb.att.com (Clifford A Stevens, Jr) > > Curb-cuts and wheelchair ramps are *VERY* hard to negotiate if > your balance is affected! And since there's never a hand rail, I hate > them. Even when I was in my chair, I only used them > occassionally. > When I was in my chair, I just went over `em backwards, same as a > curb, so the cut didn't really buy me anything! = I believe this depens on how steep the curb cut ramp is. In some areas the sidewalks are higher above the road surface and the ramps steep. But in other areas the sidewalks are worn down and resurfacing the road has raised the road heigth so that the ramp is very gradual. Even on the steep ramps though, I would think you should be able to go down them forward. Have you considered a seat belt on your chair? :-) -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!26!Stu.Turk Internet: Stu.Turk@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org
cas@mtdcb.att.com (Clifford A Stevens, Jr) (07/17/90)
Index Number: 9151 In article <12682@bunker.UUCP>, Stu.Turk@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Stu Turk) writes: ST> Index Number: 9092 ST> ST> CAS> From: cas@mtdcb.att.com (Clifford A Stevens, Jr) ST> CAS> ST> CAS> Curb-cuts and wheelchair ramps are *VERY* hard to negotiate if ST> CAS> your balance is affected! And since there's never a hand rail, I hate ST> CAS> them. Even when I was in my chair, I only used them ST> CAS> occassionally. ST> CAS> When I was in my chair, I just went over `em backwards, same as a ST> CAS> curb, so the cut didn't really buy me anything! ST> = ST> Have you considered a seat belt on your chair? :-) No, I never did! I know you're just kidding, but in my rehab thay strapped you in the chair only if they were afraid you might forget your condition and get up and try walking! So I'm prejudiced! ------------ Militant Handicapped Survivor! Cliff Stevens MT1E228 att!cbnewsj!ncas (908)671-7292
Joe.Chamberlain@f140.n150.z1.fidonet.org (Joe Chamberlain) (07/18/90)
Index Number: 9191
>> From: cas@mtdcb.att.com (Clifford A Stevens, Jr)
ST> I believe this depens on how steep the curb cut ramp is. In some
ST> areas the sidewalks are higher above the road surface and the ramps
ST> steep. But in other areas the sidewalks are worn down and resurfacing
ST> the road has raised the road heigth so that the ramp is very gradual.
There are strick specification for the incline of ramps
and curb cuts. I believe it is 1 foot of raise for each 12 feet
of ramp. Of course with todays approach to things the
responsible departments just slap it in with little regard for
specifications.
-=joe=-
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Linda.Thompson@f34.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Linda Thompson) (07/24/90)
Index Number: 9437 Speaking of handicap-accomodating hotel rooms, you would not believe the building where the Worker's Compensation Board is located here. Many on-the-job injuries cause serious, temporary or permanent handicaps and many insurance companies make claiming workers' compensation a regular nightmare all by itself. Thus, some cases must go before a judge at the Worker's compensation building. There is *NO* handicapped parking. The nearest parking is about a block away, if available. There is *NO* public elevator from the first floor to the second (escalator or freight elevator, only and to use the freight elevator, you must have a key!) Presuming you can get to the building from some parking somewhere, if you go in the wrong door (none is marked "handcapped accessible"), there is one door that has a series of inclines that are polished and shiny and nearly impossible for a perfectly-abled person to walk up and totally impossible for anyone with any type of walking, breathing, or exertion handicap. Turn around, go back out, find another door -- the accessible door is more than a block and a half around the building. Get inside, go the lenghth of the building to find a guard who will tell you where you will find the freight elevator. Get on freight elevator and find out about needing a key. Wait for someone with key. Go up to second floor. Go lenghth of building to public elevators. Go to 10th floor. Get off elevators to be greeted by two solid, spring-hinged huge wooden doors that must be pulled out to enter the Worker's Compensation office. Learn that courtroom is on next floor up. Get back out wooden doors, on public elevator. Reverse process to leave. Try this on crutches. Who was the ninny that put the Workers' Compensation Board in this Building? The ninny who owns the building is Ted Turner (CNN Building in Atlanta). Thanks, Ted. # Origin: Atlanta Medical Forum -- (404) 351-9757 (8:7301/204) -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!34!Linda.Thompson Internet: Linda.Thompson@f34.n129.z1.fidonet.org