Gene.Zeak@p0.f219.n137.z1.fidonet.org (Gene Zeak) (08/21/90)
Index Number: 9931 AB> What else can you do? If you see or hear reporters use AB> incorrect terminology (even to save space in a headline or time AB> on the air), call them or send them this page so they can be AB> aware of the appropriate words to use. Tell them it matters to AB> you and to people with disabilities. AB> AB> Any comments anybody? AB> AB> Take it easy....but take it! AB> AB> Adrienne AB> Hi Adrienne... I agree with much of that, in general. Thanks for sharing it. My concern (presently and long lasting) is, and has been, that we as a group (those that "have a disability") are far too often far too sensitive to semantics. Quite often I have seen a really well meaning person put down for using a particular chioce of words. In my opinion the intention of the heart is a lot more important than the choice of words. With that in mind let me say that I *DO* think it important to be as specifically correct as possible, but the speaker (writer) needs to be corrected in light of their intent, not just their choice of words. I've seen both sides...the wimpy response of, "Oh well, let them be...they mean well." and, "Get 'em, they used to wrong words!" To me the appropriate response lies somewhere in the middle, and that is what I'm promoting. You may think this message is directed at you...it isn't. It's just a cry in the wilderness for the application of reason... Later, Gene... -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!137!219.0!Gene.Zeak Internet: Gene.Zeak@p0.f219.n137.z1.fidonet.org
Joe.Chamberlain@f140.n150.z1.fidonet.org (Joe Chamberlain) (08/25/90)
Index Number: 9983 [This is from the Spinal Injury Conference] AB> What else can you do? If you see or hear reporters use incorrect AB> terminology (even to save space in a headline or time on the air), AB> call them or send them this page so they can be aware of the AB> appropriate words to use. Tell them it matters to you and to people AB> with disabilities. In 1970 I was selected as the Freshman Teacher of the Year in my school district. During her introduction, my principal referred to my students as "MR. C's kids." They were a group of socially and emotionally and learning disabled children. I smacked them on the back of the head when they needed it. I made them run laps around the 1/2 mile bus island when they had too much energy. I made them do homework and called their parents at work when they didn't. I loved them. I took them on special field trips. I treated them like they were worth something. Today one of them owns a Chevy car and truck dealership and one operates his own commerical painting/wallpapering business. Some kids even went to the principal and asked to be placed in my class. Point. It's not what you say, but how you treat the individuals involved. You can call them "ding-bat" and still convey love. -=joe=- -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!150!140!Joe.Chamberlain Internet: Joe.Chamberlain@f140.n150.z1.fidonet.org
Gene.Zeak@p0.f219.n137.z1.fidonet.org (Gene Zeak) (08/28/90)
Index Number: 10005 AB> At the same time words are important. The connotations that AB> words carry are important. I believe that the process is AB> circular. Words influence ideas (beliefs, prejudices, etc.) AB> which influence words and around and around. You need to break AB> into the cycle. Changing words is one way to break into the AB> cycle. But if it is not done in the context of the intent of AB> the speaker, I can't imagine that it could be successful in AB> changing attitudes. We'd just end up with a new set of words AB> with the same bad old connotations attached to them. I like AB> the approach that this article takes in pointing out that a AB> person is a person first, the disability is just one part of AB> that person. Attitudes are *SOOOO* hard to change. Even the counselors at Easter Seal's Happiness House here locally occasionally think of the clients as being, "less than." And, to be perfectly honest,,,now, THAT'S hard...someone with a disabilty (like myself) is "less than." In my particular case, I am "less than" physically, but not mentally, unless you consider weird! AB> Did you read the article by Nancy Mairs, "On Being a Cripple" in AB> Inside MS (from the Natl. MS Society) a few years ago? (I just AB> reread it, it is the Summer, 1986 issue and I can post some AB> excerpts if you or anyone else are interested). It generated a AB> lot of heated feedback pro and con in the next issue. She makes AB> her intent in her use of the word cripple quite clear in the AB> article and she is right, for what she is saying it is the right AB> word. AB> AB> Take it easy....but take it! AB> Adrienne I don't think I've read that...may not even have it. I'd be very interested in reading some of the parts that you thought were good. Later, Gene... -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!137!219.0!Gene.Zeak Internet: Gene.Zeak@p0.f219.n137.z1.fidonet.org
Eric.Bohlman@f778.n115.z1.fidonet.org (Eric Bohlman) (09/05/90)
Index Number: 10082 [This is from the Spinal Injury Conference] > AB> with disabilities. > > In 1970 I was selected as the Freshman Teacher > of the > Year in my school district. During her introduction, my > principal referred to my students as "MR. C's kids." They > were > a group of socially and emotionally and learning disabled > children. > I smacked them on the back of the head when they > needed it. I made them run laps around the 1/2 mile bus > island > when they had too much energy. I made them do homework > and > called their parents at work when they didn't. > I loved them. I took them on special field trips. > I > treated them like they were worth something. Today one > of them > owns a Chevy car and truck dealership and one operates > his own > commerical painting/wallpapering business. > Some kids even went to the principal and asked > to be > placed in my class. > > Point. It's not what you say, but how you treat > the > individuals involved. You can call them "ding-bat" and > still > convey love. > -=joe=- True, but the terminology people use CAN influence how you treat the individuals. From what you've said, you treated each of your students as himself rather than as an instance of a category described by a particular label. When one gets in the habit of putting the label first, however, one can also get in the habit of thinking of the person as an instance of the label and acting accordingly. There is a balance to be struck; it IS too easy to get hung up on minor variations of terminology and insistance on using the "correct" words. That doesn't mean that there ARE some cases where terminology can have negative effects. As an example, I can see a clear value in saying "Down's Syndrome" rather than "mongolism." I can't, however, see the same value in saying "Down Syndrome" rather than "Down's Syndrome." -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!115!778!Eric.Bohlman Internet: Eric.Bohlman@f778.n115.z1.fidonet.org
Dan.Payne@f5.n290.z1.fidonet.org (Dan Payne) (09/05/90)
Index Number: 10115 AB>Any comments anybody? AB> AB>Take it easy....but take it! AB> HERE HERE...pardon the indelicacy, but very few things p*ss me off more than (well intentioned) prople that feel that just because I have to use a wheelchair for distance travel, that I am incapable of opening a door for myself or that I HAVE to be pushed everywhere...yes, it's well intentioned, yes they are trying to be considerate, but why can't they wait untill you ask for help instead of making you feel helpless.... I lost my temper at school last quarter when a kid just walked up behind me and started pushing my chair for me...didn't say anything untill he had pushed me about ten feet.....I hit the brakes, got out of the chair and told him I could do it myself......(he almost fainted when I got out of the chair!!!).... later dan -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!290!5!Dan.Payne Internet: Dan.Payne@f5.n290.z1.fidonet.org