Henry.Kasten@f10.n130.z1.fidonet.org (Henry Kasten) (09/20/90)
Index Number: 10479 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] Howdy dan, Sure wish I could quote you, but paraphrasing will have to do. In the last message I read from you you said you did not want to start trouble. come on dan, just about all of us are to cause trouble in one way or another. You also said that we should be aware of what is going on at these schools. I couldn't agree more. However, I rather doubt that the the third party hearsay we have been getting from the school bashers should have any reliability. Seems to me that there must be more to the story about the poor woman who for more than a year and a half has not been able to cross an intersection comfortably. I think a lot of the conversations have been a little bit glamorized for publication. The truthof the matter is that nothing is perfect (excetp maybe Willie, tandy and me) and nothing worth having comes free of charge. To make any dog work for you, you, will have to work with the dog. God forbid if the dog should get sick, I think think you would have a difficult time claiming built in obsolecence. Really, if we really wanted to scream about being ripped off, I think the Dog Guide Schools who provide a service to the blind for little or no money should be at the bottom of the list. Bought any adaptive equipment lately? Was sold to you at little or no cost? How long is expected work life? Is it's work life close to 10 years? Can you use it 24 hours a day 7 days a week with little and inexpensive maintenance? Will it lick you in the face when your felling down or lonely or make you proud and good about yourself? when I look at all the thousands of dollars I've got wrapped up in all this crap from abacuses towatches nothing compare to the dog i got from a school who's only concern wasmy wellfare not there wallet. Whew, almost fell off my soap box, reckon I better quit while its still safe. Later, Henry -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!130!10!Henry.Kasten Internet: Henry.Kasten@f10.n130.z1.fidonet.org
Dave.Tanner@p210.f1.n273.z1.fidonet.org (Dave Tanner) (09/20/90)
Index Number: 10516 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] I loved your comments comparing a guidedog to access equipment in price and reliability etc. Being a new dog user I am sure I still have lots to learn, and a lot of experiences to go through yet, but I wouldn't trade traveling in a crowded metropolitan area with a dog for traveling the same area with a cane now. Apparently I and my dog have done an unusually good job of bonding quickly, and there is little that I would not trust her for at this point. But, I have enough sense to know what weakness still exist and am working on se. But, my cane still does nothing more than tell me that there is something in front of me; it still won't survey the situation and take me around a post, a group of people in the middle of a sidewalk, keep me from stepping in front of a car, or greet me each morning with the affection of a child so willing to do what you ask of them and only for the thanks of your praise. And, don't forget that many of the dog guide schools get absolutely not one cent from many of their students and they may even pay the student's transportation to and from the school. I'll never quit keeping my cane skills up, because the time will come that they will be needed. But, I'll certainly not consider sending my yellow lab back for a refund. Don't knock it till you try it is what I think you were saying and that is exactly how I feel now too. -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!273!1.210!Dave.Tanner Internet: Dave.Tanner@p210.f1.n273.z1.fidonet.org