[misc.handicap] Using Escalators

Tom.Gerhart@f210.n273.z1.fidonet.org (Tom Gerhart) (09/14/90)

Index Number: 10357

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 WS>      I understand that they do now.  I still don't know if it 
 WS>  is a good idea, but they know more than I do.
   Hi Walter,
    I have always been against taking a dog on an escalator.  I
    understand that most schools now do this training and that they have
    new escalators that do not have that big opening at the top and
    bottom, but i still feel better not using them, unless there is no
    other way to get to where I need to go. I hope others will respond
    to this mesg and give me some of their ideas. tom G

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William.Wilson@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (William Wilson) (09/14/90)

Index Number: 10359

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         I have always been against taking a dog on an escalator.  I
 TG>     understand that most schools now do this training and that 
 TG>  they have new escalators that do not have that big opening at 
 TG>  the top and bottom, but i still feel better not using them, 
 TG>  unless there is no other way to get to where I need to go. I 
 TG>  hope others will respond to this mesg and give me some of 
 TG>  their ideas.

Tom,
    I'd like to respond to your message and give you my ideas, but you
pretty well summed it up in your message!
                                                thanks,
                                                        Willie
     

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Maggi.Weslager@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Maggi Weslager) (09/14/90)

Index Number: 10360

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 TG>     I have always been against taking a dog on an escalator.  I
 TG>     understand that most schools now do this training and that 
 TG>    they have new escalators that do not have that big opening 
 TG>    at the top and bottom, but i still feel better not using 
 TG>    them, unless there is no other way to get to where I need to 
 TG>    go.

Tom,

        In the two years that my guide dog Fudge and I have been working
together, we've only attempted three escalator rides.  All three
attempts were successful.  We sure don't seek out escalators but if it's
the only alternative, we'll go for it.  I've not found too many
situations where an escalator is the only mode of lift.  I'd hate to
jeopardize my puppy's paws so I don't encourage escalator use.

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Marda.Anderson@f2.n393.z1.fidonet.org (Marda Anderson) (09/20/90)

Index Number: 10463

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My dog is trained for escalators but it is my understanding that the 
schools are doing it with some reluctance.  There are places where 
there is no alternative to an escalator and the school where I got 
May said that several students had asked for escalator work. 
However, they still pointed out that it was a risk.  Also, the 
escalator work was not required.  I did it anyway but I would rather 
not take my dog on an escalator.  I don't like them myself much 
eitehr. (grin)
marda

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Steve.Gomes@f809.n104.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Gomes) (09/20/90)

Index Number: 10492

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hi marda when I was at the guide dog foundation they just started 
esculator training.  I like the training.  I feel that nothing can 
happen to the dog if you are paying close attention to what you were 
taught and stay in front of the dog when it is time to get off the 
escalator you just feel the stairs folding and say to the dog in a new 
york accent "get off"  then every thing will work fine.

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Paula.Mack@f6.n377.z1.fidonet.org (Paula Mack) (09/21/90)

Index Number: 10594

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 WW>          I have always been against taking a dog on an 
 WW>        escalator.  I TG>     understand that most schools now 
 WW>  do this training and that TG>  they have new escalators that 
 WW>  do not have that big opening at TG>  the top and bottom, but i 
 WW>  still feel better not using them, TG>  unless there is no 
 WW>  other way to get to where I need to go.
 WW>     I'd like to respond to your message and give you my ideas, 
 WW>  but you pretty well summed it up in your message!

Hi,

I don't mean to be redundant, but this issue has bothered me for a
while.  the first time I went to GEB they said that we should never take
a dog on an escalator even if we had to carry the dog instead.

the second time I went, their tune had totally changed.  However, I
still didn't feel comfortable with it and still don't.  It just seems
that the way they teach you to sort of hurry and push the dog off at the
last minute wasn't safe.  it was as if they were saying, "Well, I guess
you must know how to do this, but hurry and get it over with when you do
it, because it's not really safe.

As a consequence of all this, I still avoid escalators like the plague.

Paula

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Tom.Gerhart@f715.n273.z1.fidonet.org (Tom Gerhart) (09/25/90)

Index Number: 10640

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Hi Paula,

I think  that the schools began to teach escalator training because
people wanted it.  I would hope that if they really thought in was not
safe they would not teach that training whether people wanteed it or
not.  But you have to remember that the schools are in competition with
each other and there is a limited number of blind guys out there who
want dogs. tom g

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cas@mtdcb.att.com (Cliff Stevens) (10/02/90)

Index Number: 10682

OK, I've seen much discussion on how to take an escalator w a guide dog,
but hasn't anyone got any advice on how to take am escalator w a wchair?
If no one does and there is interest, I can give you my advice on the
subject.

It is fairly easy, but you have to be handicapped in the right way.
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Charlotte.Ferris@f5.n382.z1.fidonet.org (Charlotte Ferris) (10/09/90)

Index Number: 10960

Re: wheelchairs and escalators--
        Yes, Cliff, please tell how to access an escalator from a 
wheelchair; I've often wished I could dare to try it, but I haven't had the 
guts. What's the trick? 
 

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Bill.Koppelmann@f810.n104.z1.fidonet.org (Bill Koppelmann) (10/09/90)

Index Number: 10977

Cliff, as I tend to be a little bit on the militant sometimes, I'd be 
interested in what handicap you have.  As you may already know, I am a 
blind guy and belong to the NFB, if you know of it.   
Bill.

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