Tom.Gerhart@f210.n273.z1.fidonet.org (Tom Gerhart) (09/14/90)
Index Number: 10357 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] WS> I understand that they do now. I still don't know if it WS> is a good idea, but they know more than I do. Hi Walter, I have always been against taking a dog on an escalator. I understand that most schools now do this training and that they have new escalators that do not have that big opening at the top and bottom, but i still feel better not using them, unless there is no other way to get to where I need to go. I hope others will respond to this mesg and give me some of their ideas. tom G -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!273!210!Tom.Gerhart Internet: Tom.Gerhart@f210.n273.z1.fidonet.org
William.Wilson@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (William Wilson) (09/14/90)
Index Number: 10359 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] I have always been against taking a dog on an escalator. I TG> understand that most schools now do this training and that TG> they have new escalators that do not have that big opening at TG> the top and bottom, but i still feel better not using them, TG> unless there is no other way to get to where I need to go. I TG> hope others will respond to this mesg and give me some of TG> their ideas. Tom, I'd like to respond to your message and give you my ideas, but you pretty well summed it up in your message! thanks, Willie ... BlinkTalk, Dr. Deb and Silver in Pittsburgh! -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!89.0!William.Wilson Internet: William.Wilson@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Maggi.Weslager@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Maggi Weslager) (09/14/90)
Index Number: 10360 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] TG> I have always been against taking a dog on an escalator. I TG> understand that most schools now do this training and that TG> they have new escalators that do not have that big opening TG> at the top and bottom, but i still feel better not using TG> them, unless there is no other way to get to where I need to TG> go. Tom, In the two years that my guide dog Fudge and I have been working together, we've only attempted three escalator rides. All three attempts were successful. We sure don't seek out escalators but if it's the only alternative, we'll go for it. I've not found too many situations where an escalator is the only mode of lift. I'd hate to jeopardize my puppy's paws so I don't encourage escalator use. -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!89.0!Maggi.Weslager Internet: Maggi.Weslager@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Marda.Anderson@f2.n393.z1.fidonet.org (Marda Anderson) (09/20/90)
Index Number: 10463 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] My dog is trained for escalators but it is my understanding that the schools are doing it with some reluctance. There are places where there is no alternative to an escalator and the school where I got May said that several students had asked for escalator work. However, they still pointed out that it was a risk. Also, the escalator work was not required. I did it anyway but I would rather not take my dog on an escalator. I don't like them myself much eitehr. (grin) marda -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!393!2!Marda.Anderson Internet: Marda.Anderson@f2.n393.z1.fidonet.org
Steve.Gomes@f809.n104.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Gomes) (09/20/90)
Index Number: 10492 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] hi marda when I was at the guide dog foundation they just started esculator training. I like the training. I feel that nothing can happen to the dog if you are paying close attention to what you were taught and stay in front of the dog when it is time to get off the escalator you just feel the stairs folding and say to the dog in a new york accent "get off" then every thing will work fine. -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!104!809!Steve.Gomes Internet: Steve.Gomes@f809.n104.z1.fidonet.org
Paula.Mack@f6.n377.z1.fidonet.org (Paula Mack) (09/21/90)
Index Number: 10594 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] WW> I have always been against taking a dog on an WW> escalator. I TG> understand that most schools now WW> do this training and that TG> they have new escalators that WW> do not have that big opening at TG> the top and bottom, but i WW> still feel better not using them, TG> unless there is no WW> other way to get to where I need to go. WW> I'd like to respond to your message and give you my ideas, WW> but you pretty well summed it up in your message! Hi, I don't mean to be redundant, but this issue has bothered me for a while. the first time I went to GEB they said that we should never take a dog on an escalator even if we had to carry the dog instead. the second time I went, their tune had totally changed. However, I still didn't feel comfortable with it and still don't. It just seems that the way they teach you to sort of hurry and push the dog off at the last minute wasn't safe. it was as if they were saying, "Well, I guess you must know how to do this, but hurry and get it over with when you do it, because it's not really safe. As a consequence of all this, I still avoid escalators like the plague. Paula ... Xpress Yourself! -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!377!6!Paula.Mack Internet: Paula.Mack@f6.n377.z1.fidonet.org
Tom.Gerhart@f715.n273.z1.fidonet.org (Tom Gerhart) (09/25/90)
Index Number: 10640 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] Hi Paula, I think that the schools began to teach escalator training because people wanted it. I would hope that if they really thought in was not safe they would not teach that training whether people wanteed it or not. But you have to remember that the schools are in competition with each other and there is a limited number of blind guys out there who want dogs. tom g -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!273!715!Tom.Gerhart Internet: Tom.Gerhart@f715.n273.z1.fidonet.org
cas@mtdcb.att.com (Cliff Stevens) (10/02/90)
Index Number: 10682 OK, I've seen much discussion on how to take an escalator w a guide dog, but hasn't anyone got any advice on how to take am escalator w a wchair? If no one does and there is interest, I can give you my advice on the subject. It is fairly easy, but you have to be handicapped in the right way. ------------ Militant Handicapped Survivor! Cliff Stevens MT1E228 att!cbnewsj!ncas (908)671-7292
Charlotte.Ferris@f5.n382.z1.fidonet.org (Charlotte Ferris) (10/09/90)
Index Number: 10960 Re: wheelchairs and escalators-- Yes, Cliff, please tell how to access an escalator from a wheelchair; I've often wished I could dare to try it, but I haven't had the guts. What's the trick? -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!382!5!Charlotte.Ferris Internet: Charlotte.Ferris@f5.n382.z1.fidonet.org
Bill.Koppelmann@f810.n104.z1.fidonet.org (Bill Koppelmann) (10/09/90)
Index Number: 10977 Cliff, as I tend to be a little bit on the militant sometimes, I'd be interested in what handicap you have. As you may already know, I am a blind guy and belong to the NFB, if you know of it. Bill. -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!104!810!Bill.Koppelmann Internet: Bill.Koppelmann@f810.n104.z1.fidonet.org