Dan.Kysor@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.org (Dan Kysor) (10/12/90)
Index Number: 11074
[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]
smith kettlewell has developed "talking sign" technology but
unfortunately, it hasn't caught on. this works as follows- you
install a computer chip in a building sign, door (room #) etc and
the blind person carries a little receiver like a tiny transistor
radio and the chips speak the room #, address, restaurant name
etc. it would be nice if all federal buildings required this
technology and thus, this would pave the way for widespread
exceptance... dan, out of sight, out of my mind!
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Internet: Dan.Kysor@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.orgDavid.Martin@f800.n106.z1.fidonet.org (David Martin) (10/13/90)
Index Number: 11090
[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]
Glad I saw this on here, speaking of technology, I wonder if anything exists
that allows blind-deaf to comunicate with either other blind people, or sight
people. Specifically, what I'm thinking of is a machine with either a
braille, or regular keyboard, a synthesizer chip, such as the artic sa203,
and, a screen. I have a friend who is partially deaf, and she and I have one
heck of a time comunicating, sometimes. sure would be nice to have something
that I could write on, and she could see it on an lcd screen, or something
like that. What I am thinking of is 2 models, perhaps, both with speech, and
screen capabilities, but, 1 with braille, and 1 with regular typewriter
keyboard. Now, wonder if anything exists out there like that...do you know?
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Internet: David.Martin@f800.n106.z1.fidonet.orgHenry.Kasten@f10.n130.z1.fidonet.org (Henry Kasten) (10/13/90)
Index Number: 11094
[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]
Hello dan, I think that the technology you spoke of, talking buildings,
is really neat. It is a shame that it is being developed for Blinks,
when I had 20 20 vision, I got lost a lot more than I do totally blind.
Also, on my trips (and falls) about time, both sighted and blind, I had
to stop people and ask questions. The point I am trying to make here, is
that those are neat ideas, but certainly unnecessary. Hopefully when
visiting a building, you would sdoing so during normal operating hours,
it is okay to ask for directions. I don't know if you have been blind
most of your life, but I am beginning to hear a common thread among some
of the blinks here which leads me to believe that they don't want to feel
inferior to their winking brothers and sisters, so they won't admit they
need some assistance. Sorry, but for those who try to adhere to that
phylosophy, are only kidding themselves and usually end up inforcing the
opinion of the general public that Blinks really are functionally
dissabled.
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Internet: Henry.Kasten@f10.n130.z1.fidonet.orgGlen.Nielson@f778.n115.z1.fidonet.org (Glen Nielson) (10/17/90)
Index Number: 11151
[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]
The two things I know of that might fit the bill are the
Navigator from TeleSensory and the KeyBraille from Human-
ware. These are both Braille displays that hook up to an
IBM PC. I think that Telesensory claims that Navigator can
be used in conjunction with Vert--if I was you I'd want to
see it before believing that it works. Both these machines
are expensive!
Glen
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Internet: Glen.Nielson@f778.n115.z1.fidonet.orgGary.Petraccaro@f90.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Gary Petraccaro) (10/17/90)
Index Number: 11158
[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]
Henry,
I think what you're seeing in the reactions of most blinks is the
result of feeling voulnerable--perceiving to be voulnerable rather than
actually being such. Most of us react by wanting to appear as little at
someone else's mercy as possible. The result is the over-reaction
exhibited by some, inactivity shown by others. I don't know if the blinded
have such a reaction, it may depend on how and when they went blind. You
raise an interesting question when you brought this one up. I have a
feeling that it has to do with the lack of cues as to what winks are saying
in facial and body language, the result is to fret about it, and begin to
expect the worst. I'm no psychologist, just guessing.
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Internet: Gary.Petraccaro@f90.n129.z1.fidonet.orgDan.Kysor@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.org (Dan Kysor) (10/23/90)
Index Number: 11212
[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]
i used to work with the deaf blind years ago and back then there
was a keyboard with a print display, looked like a tty machine.
there is also a type to speech type deal but i'm not sure what's
actual name is. you should call Hadley School for the Blind in
Illonois, someone here can get you the number. Hadley serves many
deaf blind persons and as I understand, the president of the school
is deaf-blind. take care for now, dan out of sight, out of my
mind!
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Internet: Dan.Kysor@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.orgDan.Kysor@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.org (Dan Kysor) (10/23/90)
Index Number: 11213
[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]
you hear that common thread amoungst blind nfb members but that
dosen't mean the rest of us feel that we're too capable for
technical assistance. to me, this idea of inferrior tells me that
many blind folks in fact feel inferrior to sighted people and have
to over compensate and constantly second guess sighted people and
them by acting superior. "talking signs" is a relative inexpensive
soloution to the concept of reasonable accomidationand as so many
others on here have pointed out, sighted folks are given safety
accomidations in this society, why should blind folks be excluded.
I am sick and tired of blind people who project and try to force
their standards on the rest of the blind community. people all
have different abilities and skills. anyway, hope i answered your
question, take care, i feel more like now than i did a while ago!
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