[misc.handicap] Healthcare Cost

Joe.Chamberlain@f140.n150.z1.fidonet.org (Joe Chamberlain) (10/18/90)

Index Number: 11185

 JC>> Health care costs in America are nearly eight times that of our
 JC>> international competitors.  By not having the internal discipline
 JC>> to say no to the excesses America is adding yet another nail to
 JC>> its economic coffin.
     
 JO> If our economy ever collapses, excessive health care will be the
 JO> probable cause.  It's a greater threat than the international
 JO> balance of payments.  Maybe we will wake up before it is too late.
 JO> I saw a short spot on TV yesterday calling attention to this
 JO> (I believe it was sponsored by AFL/CIO).
     
        Exactly.  Medicare was introduced as a system which would 
have a monthly fee that would pay at least half of the cost.  At 
the present time the fee covers less than 25 percent of the cost.  
The buget increases and cuts were intended to solve this 
lopsidedness.  

        Since the budget was defeated then the next best thing is 
to leave the benefits and increase the monthly fees.  We could 
pay for the benefits by cutting aide to Israel.

                                -=joe=-

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Jack.O'keeffe@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Jack O'keeffe) (10/30/90)

Index Number: 11365

We've had some discussions here about the escalating costs of
healthcare and the imminent collapse of the system.  A current
article in the Pittsburgh Press sheds a bit of light on some
of the underlying conditions.  It seems the Central Blood Bank
of Pittsburgh has lost its tax exempt status as a non-profit
public service institution.  Among the reasons for withdrawing
the tax exemption were the following:

The blood bank made a profit of $2.4 million in its 1989-90
fiscal year.

The president of the blood bank is paid $140,000 a year, given
a Lexus automobile, and membership in several exclusive (and
expensive) clubs.

A senior vice president of the blood bank is paid $100,000 a
year.  He doesn't get a Lexus, has to get by with a mere Lincoln,
but he does get the club memberships.

All the revenues supporting this profit and lifestyle are derived
from charges to hospitals for blood and blood products collected
and distributed by the blood bank.  Blood money?  Naturally the
hospitals pass this cost on to the healthcare consumers after
adding an appropriate markup.  After all, they need those
Lincolns and Lexuses too.

I remember back when they made do with Cadillacs and BMWs.

... Caveat Emptor!

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Ann.Stalnaker@p0.f14.n385.z1.fidonet.org (Ann Stalnaker) (11/02/90)

Index Number: 11452

 > We've had some discussions here about the escalating costs
 > of healthcare and the imminent collapse of the system.  A
 > current article in the Pittsburgh press sheds a bit of
 > light on some of the underlying conditions.  It seems the
 > Central Blood Bank of Pittsburgh has lost its tax exempt
 > status as a non-profit public service institution.
 
Jack, you know this very same thing happened to the Goodwill
Industries.  I know this is a tacky thing to say - but, I hate
the way Goodwill operates and treats the employees that work
for them.  Most of them are disabled but they sure make them
feel so degrading and the majority of them only make $2.50
an hour!
 
At one time, Goodwill Industries here in LawtonLand purchased
a new van, fully equipped with lifts and so forth.  They decided
to charge each passenger anywhere from $4.00 on up per trip
and ran only 3 days a week.  You had to call way in advance to
be guaranteed a ride.  Boy - did they lose out on this!  They ended 
up turning the vehicle over to the city.  However, our city is
operating on such a tight budget that the van just sits in the parking 
lot of the transportation site.
 
 > I remember back when they made do with Cadillacs and BMWs.
 
 
I believe you and I could run some of these institutions and be
perfectly happy with a Caddy!  (grin)
 

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Bill.Higgins@p17.f9.n249.z1.fidonet.org (Bill Higgins) (11/06/90)

Index Number: 11549

Hi Ann,

 Allow me to quote the letter you mailed on 29-Oct-90

 AS> Jack, you know this very same thing happened to the Goodwill
 AS> Industries.  I know this is a tacky thing to say - but, I hate the way
 AS> Goodwill operates and treats the employees that work for them.  Most
 AS> of them are disabled but they sure make them feel so degrading and the
 AS> majority of them only make $2.50 an hour!

     $2.50!!!! I was part of a March of Dimes Program and all we got was
     $0.10/hr. It seems that they have some sort of an exemption from the
     Provincial Labour Laws. I too was exploited, and at the time too irate
     to think of hauling them up before the authorities and bleeding them
     dry!.

 AS> At one time, Goodwill
 AS> Industries here in LawtonLand purchased a new van, fully equipped with
 AS> lifts and so forth.  They decided to charge each passenger anywhere
 AS> from $4.00 on up per trip and ran only 3 days a week.  You had to call
 AS> way in advance to be guaranteed a ride.  Boy - did they lose out on
 AS> this!  They ended up turning the vehicle over to the city.  However,
 AS> our city is operating on such a tight budget that the van just sits in
 AS> the parking lot of the transportation site.

     We have a half decent system here but it still has room  for
     improvement. Of course, it may always have room for improvement even
     though they get better hardware and other infrastructure items added. I
     guess it's a viscous (SP?) circle.

 >> I remember back when they made do with Cadillacs and BMWs.
 AS> I believe you and I could run some of these institutions and be
 AS> perfectly happy with a Caddy!  (grin)

     <GRIN> I'll take two. (Ducking tire iron being swung)

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