Linda.Iverson@f10.n130.z1.fidonet.org (Linda Iverson) (11/20/90)
Index Number: 11897 [This is from the Silent Talk Conference] Hi, Karen! I guess your knowledge of the "blind world" is about like mine of the "deaf world". I found this echo by accident and started reading it. I've learned a lot about the deaf and HI, but I think mostly I've learned about people. As Vixen said in a message, we all live in the same world, after all. I wouldn't wish any disability on anyone, but if we have one, I think it's up to us to make the best of it and to realize there are things we just can't do and to know how to ask for help when necessary, but at the same time let the person of whom we are asking help we are in charge of the situation. Should you ever have questions about the "blind world", don't hesitate to ask me. However, what I tell you might not be what someone else who is blind would say. We all handle our disabilities our way. I feel I am an expert on my blindness, but no one else's. My way may not work for someone else. I have a couple of questions for you! Just curious. I would think in some ways there is a lot of similarity between deafness and blindness--each is a sensory loss, and I think the general public can't imagine how they could do something if they couldn't see or hear. Like you said, you just develop techniques and creativity. Anyway, have you ever had people you just met ask you personal questions--things you'd never ask someone you'd never seen before and might never see again? I've been on a bus or train and people will ask me how long I've been "that way"--meaning blind, of course. About four years ago my grandmother passed away. I was living in Minnesota then and I was taking the bus to Florida for the funeral. My son, who was about five then was with me. We were changing buses in Chicago, and while waiting for the bus, I was chatting with this lady and all of a sudden she said, "Now, ah, this little boy? How is he connected to you?" As though the thought I might be his mother never crossed her mind. About two years ago now my husband walked out on my son and me and just came in one day and said he was filing for divorce. He started living with a lady who had five childrenby three dads. They had their baby five weeks after we signed the divorce papers. Anyway, my husband is also blind, but this gal is sighted. A "friend" said to me, "Well, it must be easier for him now that he's with someone who can see!" I can't tell you how angry and hurt I was. I've dated both blind and sighted buys and met nice and jerky ones among both groups. I've tried to judge people for who they are--not because of, or not because they don't have a disability. Anyway, I've wondered if people take such personal liberties with other disabilities. Also, you mentioned you were the eldest of four children. Were you allowed to be the eldest in the sense of having certain responsibilities and priviliges that go with being the firstborn? I was an only child till fourteen, so I guess for all intense and purposes I'm an only child, but I've had blind friends who were not allowed to baby-sit the other kids, do chores, etc. So they grew up to be 25 going on ten. I've never understood why parents think a sense deprivation affects so many other things. Sometimes parents say all the right things, but you wonder if they really expect much of their disabled child. I was lucky in that my parents, though over-protective in some ways, weren't nearly as much so as others I've seen. Then, I guess some of us are strong-willed enough that we won't let our parents protect us. I had a resource teacher in school who was legally blind, and she expected everything from us. I learned how to do my math--I mean work the answers out on a manual typewriter, and I'm grateful for that! I know a blind high school kid who does all his homework Lindacare!rfect!but I wish the average Joe on the street wouldn't think [This message arrived truncated] -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!130!10!Linda.Iverson Internet: Linda.Iverson@f10.n130.z1.fidonet.org
Karen.Keil@f809.n104.z1.fidonet.org (Karen Keil) (11/28/90)
Index Number: 12007 [This is from the Silent Talk Conference] I don't know where to start in replying to your message. You could say my parents were a little over-protective, but it seems parents would tend to be with any child in a sense. Even though I was the oldest, I did not have all the privileges and responsibilities of the oldest. My middle sister and I shared the oldest spot---she did things that I couldn't do like answering the phone. For instance, in my early teens, my sister and I team-babysat and split the earnings. This was to assure the parents that there was at least one hearing person there to handle things I couldn't hear very well (like the phone) or understanding a kid who didn't articulate very well. Otherwise, we did the same things--sometimes it helped to have another person there to keep track of several children! Your experiences as a blind person are very informative and interesting. You and I are alike in being able-bodied in every way but have a sense that's not working normally. I used to ride a bus with handicapped kids--kids with braces, blind, mentally retarded and deaf. It was quite a combination. Sometimes a few of the retarded kids would start fighting in the back of the bus and the bus driver would have to stop the bus and walk to the back with a wooden ruler to administer some discipline. I know a little of the feeling of people not regarding you as a whole person (re the incident of the woman asking about your son). Sometimes people think I'm not very intelligent--but my brain is just fine--the problem is getting the information past my ears to my mind! It takes a lot of energy and effort for me to keep on top of things and anything I don't read, have told to me directly etc. won't get to me. Overhearing, an alternate source of picking up odd bits of information, is just not available to me. What I'm trying to say is--everything I know has to be direct--I cannot pick up information casually the way most people do by overhearing. I'm going to have to cut this short. I have to leave the phone line free for calls for someone in my family. So long for now! Karen -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!104!809!Karen.Keil Internet: Karen.Keil@f809.n104.z1.fidonet.org