scottl@sybase.com (Scott Luebking) (11/07/90)
Index Number: 11615
Hi,
A couple of people have suggested that I should write an article on
the art of external catheters. If you have any suggestions or ideas
to include in the article, could you please send them to me?
I'd like to be pretty comprehensive including tricks, problems, skin
rashes, etc.
Thanks very much,
Scott
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scottl@sybase.comHarry.London@f1000.n261.z1.fidonet.org (Harry London) (11/16/90)
Index Number: 11743
Somehow through almost a year of external catheters in good rehab
hospitals in-patient and out, nobody every really taught me how to
get the most efficiency (and dryness) out of them. I literally had to
figure almost all of it out on my own. Here are some things I
learned: (1) I could not use the kind of external with the separate
adhesive and sheath. Caused excoriations. (2) I learned that you have
to knead the penis from bottom to top once the condom is on, I suppose to
heat up the adhesive and make it stick longer. (3) The loop of the
tube from the condom to the leg strap is critical for me. If the
loop isn't just right there's a good chance of either kinking near
the source or pulling away where the condom meets the tube. (4)
Though the packages always say don't use more than 24 hours, I've
found I have to make a careful evaluation at bedtime to decide
whether to install a fresh one or not. (5) The brand that works
for me is Holister External Male Catheter. The leg bag and drainage
bag that work for me are by Conveen. Is this the kind of information
you want, or are you looking for less basic stuff? I'd like to
read your article when it's published, or earlier if you like.
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Internet: Harry.London@f1000.n261.z1.fidonet.orgJoe.Chamberlain@f140.n150.z1.fidonet.org (Joe Chamberlain) (11/16/90)
Index Number: 11748
SL> A couple of people have suggested that I should write an article on
SL> the art of external catheters. If you have any suggestions or ideas
SL> to include in the article, could you please send them to me?
SL> I'd like to be pretty comprehensive including tricks, problems, skin
SL> {mtxinu,sun,pyramid,pacbell}!sybase!scottl
SL> scottl@sybase.com
As a former worker with newly injured children please
don't forget the needs of children. A nine year old objects to
wearing diapers and, where possible, looks forward to being dry.
-=joe=-
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Internet: Joe.Chamberlain@f140.n150.z1.fidonet.orgMarc.Moyantcheff@f71.n135.z1.fidonet.org (Marc Moyantcheff) (11/17/90)
Index Number: 11757
hi harry,
although i have cntrl over my bladder , but need assit in going to
the bathroom, i thought trying a cath. especialy when going out at night
with people or dates. i always woundered how guys can keep it on and stay
dry if/when they have erections. i have many , one of gods tricks . and how
does the female feel about undoing them when needed?
Marco Polo
TIFN
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Index Number: 11764
Hello, Marc...
I for one am not in a position to answer your questions, having no
bladder control whatsoever, and minimal, practically no sensation there
erotic or otherwise.
Biggest problem with external catheters for me is weakening of the
adhesive caused by wetness caused in turn by kinking of the tube. As far
as how a woman feels about it, I'm thinking that everybody gets used to
everything over time.
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Internet: Harry.London@f1000.n261.z1.fidonet.orgJoe.Chamberlain@f140.n150.z1.fidonet.org (Joe Chamberlain) (11/19/90)
Index Number: 11839
MM> although i have cntrl over my bladder , but need assit in going
MM> to the bathroom, i thought trying a cath. especialy when going
MM> out at night with people or dates. i always woundered how guys can keep
MM> it on and stay dry if/when they have erections. i have many , one of
MM> gods tricks . and how
MM> does the female feel about undoing them when needed?
I have dated a number of women and none have objected to
doing what was needed to meet each of our needs. An erection
only serves to seal the external tighter and thus insures a
greater degree of security.
-=joe=-
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Index Number: 11850
hi joe,
JC> I have dated a number of women and none have
JC> objected to doing what was needed to meet each of our needs.
i have tried to bring this subject up many times. sex is still a pvt
matter for many.. i for one am open about it. at 28 , im still hving
problems getting my needs met. weather i hvant the right person(S) or some
ladies feels that im to dependent on them. we need to be held as much as the
next guy.... any sug? comments?
JC> erection
JC> only serves to seal the external tighter and thus insures a
JC> greater degree of security.
didnt kno that..... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Marco Polo
TIFN.
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Internet: Marc.Moyantcheff@f71.n135.z1.fidonet.orgjohnm@diemen.cc.utas.edu.au (John B. Miezitis) (11/19/90)
Index Number: 11855 I am new to the world of wheelchairs and external catheters and have been experimenting with different adhesive (convatec at the moment) and various bag placement. I was wearing the bag on my calf and found this would drain well using gravity and a siphoning effect. However I have recently tried wearing it on my thigh with a view to wearing shorts now summer is nigh (I am in Aus). This variation requires closer attention to ensure good drainage. I find stimulating the bladder by tapping four times a day helps me mangage drainage. By stimulating the drainage at known times I avoid most problems and emptying the bag frequently also avoids odour problems. I would like to avoid wearing anything at night but can only manage approximately three consecutive nights in a row without having used the drainage. This is an interesting subject for me at present and I am keen to read other peoples ideas and experiences so keep the articles coming. Thanks. Cheers.. _______________________________________________________________________________ John. B. Miezitis. University of Tasmania Computing Centre email: johnm@diemen.cc.utas.edu.au | Belgium man Belgium!!! _______________________________________________________________________________
Joe.Chamberlain@f140.n150.z1.fidonet.org (Joe Chamberlain) (11/21/90)
Index Number: 11904
MM> i have tried to bring this subject up many times.
MM> sex is still a pvt matter for many..
Do you mean an emotional/caring relationship which will lead to a
satisfying sexual experience for both parties? Or, are you
referring to a good screwing? The last can be had with a quick
phone call.
The first one takes a great deal of time with the right person.
It involves finding that significant other and then developing a
trusting and loving attachment to one another. Sometimes this
takes years for the average able bodied person.
MM> i for one am open about it. at 28 , im still hving
MM> problems getting my needs met. weather i hvant the right
MM> person(S) or some ladies feels that im to dependent on them.
MM> we need to be held as much as the
MM> next guy.... any sug? comments?
With the disabled it takes a little longer. If you choose to
seek only able bodied partners then it will take even longer. If
you only go out twice a week then it takes longer. If your
social life is limited then it will take longer. To be success
you must get out and interact.
You refer to some ladies thinking you are to dependent. Well,
there are some women who like that in their men. There are all
kinds of men and women in this world and each of us has our
particular set of needs. The trick is to find that other person
who needs what you have to offer and is willing to give what you
need. In order to find this person you must socialize.
Hope this helps
-=joe=-
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Index Number: 12178
JC> With the disabled it takes a little longer. If you choose to
JC> seek only able bodied partners then it will take even longer.
JC> If you only go out twice a week then it takes longer. If your
JC> social life is limited then it will take longer. To be success
JC> you must get out and interact.
JC> You refer to some ladies thinking you are to dependent. Well,
JC> there are some women who like that in their men. There are all
JC> kinds of men and women in this world and each of us has our
JC> particular set of needs. The trick is to find that other person
JC> who needs what you have to offer and is willing to give what you
JC> need. In order to find this person you must socialize.
Hi Joe! I am going through a period right now which is very frustrating, and
I'd like to ask you for some suggestions. I am a quad, and although I can do
a great many things for myself, toileting is a major problem. I can't handle
it alone. I am also someone who tends to be nervous in social situations, and
this can lead to the dreaded "stomach ache", for which there is usually only
one relief.
Because of this toileting problem, I stick close to home. I am also
desperately seeking a relationship. My shrinks say as you do that in order to
find a special someone, I have to socialize more. Unfortunately, that same
socialization could cause a great deal of embarrassment if the dreaded
"stomach ache" rears its ugly self.
What does someone in my situation do? I can't be socially comfortable if I
have to drag a home attendant or relative along to help in the bathroom, yet
without such support, I can't socialize. What do others in this predicament
do?
Your input will be very much appreciated. Thank you.
JMB
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Index Number: 12189
JB> Because of this toileting problem, I stick close to home.
JB> I am also desperately seeking a relationship.
JB> My shrinks say as you do that in order to
JB> find a special someone, I have to socialize more.
JB> same socialization could cause a great deal of embarrassment
JB> if the dreaded "stomach ache" rears its ugly self.
JB> What does someone in my situation do? I can't be socially
JB> comfortable if I have to drag a home attendant or relativ
JB> along to help in the bathroom, yet
JB> without such support, I can't socialize. What do others in this
JB> predicament do?
The first time it happened to me I was embarrassed beyond
words. This was in a college classroom and I developed explosive
diarrea.
That was more than 30 years ago. Today I have learned to
manage a good bowel routine. I eat a balanced diet, with plenty
of vegetables. However, I avoid beans, corn, and other foods
which will produce irregularity. I don't try to go every day, but
rather every other day in the evening after dinner. I avoid
stool softeners and suppostories, but do use them occassionally.
I also drink lots of liquids, at least a gallon a day.
Each person has too develop their own routine. Every
day, every other day, or even every third day. Morning or
evening. With or without suppostories. With or without a stool
softener. You can develop a good routine even to the degree of
safety to allow you to work. I taught elementary school for 5
years and never missed more than my allotted 10 days of sick
leave.
Nothing is foolproof, but you can lessen the chances of
an accident. The other thing you need to realize is that
everyone elso has these needs too. The difference is we need
help. There were many times when I made my quick excuses and
departed for home where there was the necessary help.
Hope this helps.
-=joe=-
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