Chris.Brown@f113.n163.z1.fidonet.org (Chris Brown) (12/05/90)
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F.Y.I.
"Abegg's textbook of Chemistry", (vol. III, Part I.),
1892, Germany.
"Aluminum in Food" British Ministry of Health, 1935.
"Biochemical Journal", S. Judd Lewis, 1931.
A three year test (1932-34) by Professor Prescott at the
Institute of Technology, Cambridge Mass., found that
gastric ill effects were observed when coffee was
prepared in aluminum vessels.
"Food Investigation Report" Department of Scientific and
Industrial Research, London, England, 1948.
"The Danger of Food Contamination by Aluminum", Dr. Le
Hunte Cooper, Royal Army Medical Corps, Britain, 1932.
"An Outline of Aluminum Pathogenesis", ibid, 1942.
"The Clinical Aspect of Chronic Poisoning by Aluminum and
Its Alloys" Dr. Leo Spira, Britain, 1933. Dr. Spira
successfully treated aluminum poisoning by removing
aluminum cook ware, and by not cooking in tap water, as
it contains alum.
Dr. Spira has also stated that "as a result of prolonged
investigation into the causation of digestive disorders
prevalent in this country (England), frequently
associated with pyorrhoea, certain skin diseases, eczema,
boils, pruritus, etc., it was found they could be cured
in the majority of cases and their recurrence prevented
by discontinuing the use of aluminum utensils and
eliminating the poison accumulated in the body over the
space of years". (1935, The Times, London.)
"British Medical Journal" (16 April 1932) Dr. Coram James
reports that he successfully treated several gastric
disorders by substituting enamel and iron pots for
aluminum cook ware.
"British Medical Journal" (6 August 1932) Dr. E. H. Rink,
a patient was cured of "colitis" by replacing aluminum
utensils and eliminating aluminum "poisons" from the
body.
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(These are just a few reports. There are dozens more, but these hould
make the piint.)
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CB> "The Clinical Aspect of Chronic Poisoning by Aluminum and
CB> Its Alloys" Dr. Leo Spira, Britain, 1933. Dr. Spira
CB> successfully treated aluminum poisoning by removing
CB> aluminum cook ware, and by not cooking in tap water, as
CB> it contains alum.
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Just curious but if you can't cook with tap water, what do you use? Does
everyone need to install their own water filtration system?
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Internet: Stu.Turk@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.orgDan.Payne@f5.n290.z1.fidonet.org (Dan Payne) (12/07/90)
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CB>"Abegg's textbook of Chemistry", (vol. III, Part I.),
CB>1892, Germany.
CB>"Aluminum in Food" British Ministry of Health, 1935.
CB>"Biochemical Journal", S. Judd Lewis, 1931.
CB>A three year test (1932-34) by Professor Prescott at the
CB>"Food Investigation Report" Department of Scientific and
CB>Industrial Research, London, England, 1948.
CB>"The Danger of Food Contamination by Aluminum", Dr. Le
CB>Hunte Cooper, Royal Army Medical Corps, Britain, 1932.
CB>"An Outline of Aluminum Pathogenesis", ibid, 1942.
CB>"The Clinical Aspect of Chronic Poisoning by Aluminum and
CB>Its Alloys" Dr. Leo Spira, Britain, 1933. Dr. Spira
CB>"British Medical Journal" (16 April 1932) Dr. Coram James
CB>"British Medical Journal" (6 August 1932) Dr. E. H. Rink,
Got any RECENT studies???? Just as a basically neutral observer, I
notice that your quoted materials range from 1892 to 1948, severely
dated to say the least. any "new technology" is usually found to
be either a "cure all" or "the reason for all problems" when it is
relatively new. Since there have been radical changes (to say the
least) in the making of aluminum products that would come into
contact with food, I would like to see some research that was done
in the last 10 to 20 years. From a purely argumentative standpoint
(I take neither side of the issue here), I would tend to dismiss an
argument that was based on 40+ year old studies (the average
information seems to be almost 60 years old). As I said, I am not
taking any side in the discussion, I just seem to thing that where
scientific evidence is being considered, taking into consideration
the changes in technology since 1892, your side would be better
represented with more recent information..
later
dan
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I guess it depends on your local water, and your individual
physiology, and your concern about "risk". People usually think of
risk as slightly affecting everyone. In fact, it drastically
affects some, and doesn't seem to affect others. How can you
predict? Who knows. Most persons with sensitivities, and many in
the population at large are beginning to drink spring water and
filtered water, for a variety of reasons. The most common one is
simpy a reaction to chlorine or other substances in city water.
Some people do it for the taste. Others are concerned about
chlorohydrocarbons which can cause cancer. Some are sensitive to
flouride, which has been shown to have at least as many bad effects
as good ones, although the american dental association denies this
is proven. (The AMA also recommends mercury fillings, which cause
health problems in some poeple.)
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I would certainly agree with you, except that the point I was
trying to make was that the fact that there are studies showing
adverse effects of aluminum is NOT NEW. Someone had said that
studies showing the adverse effects of aluminum were recent. I was
only making the point that such studies have existed for a century,
and that such information is not new at all. I will leave it to
others more informed about literature on
aluminum/alzheimers/digestive disorders/and other physiological
problems resulting from aluminum to make a more up to date
listing. Certainly alsheimer's is not the only illness where there
is alink, and aluminum metal is not the only source of aluminum
intake for humans.
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