Fran.O'gorman@f94.n272.z1.fidonet.org (Fran O'gorman) (01/26/91)
Index Number: 13203 [This is from the Silent Talk Conference] Thanks Tzip, I only just yesterday wrote about Rob Carr's msg that has quite changed my mind about all this, which you won't have yet received (but by the time you receive this will have--confusing, huh?) But anyway I should emphasize that it MAY take some time as I really want to re-do the old Sign Friends so that it's compilable which will be a major project. In the meantime SF will still be helpful to them as it IS a start and many of those signs are very necessary (what's already in it) also as you prepare that film, if you could possibly be in touch with that Rob Carr (do read his msg to me, for sure) --he seems to have an excellent handle on HOW to use sign in such a way to decrease the chance of mis-communication. The technique is very important and something that Terry would want to be aware of if he is preparing a training film. Happily most of the other speech augmentations are pretty self-explanatory as they usually have the word as well as the symbol together (I believe Blyss symbolics does) but being aware that such a system exists and having seen such a board would still be necessary. Take care and I'll stay in touch...meta-macro-mega-M-braces ..Ha, how about THAT one! <smile> --Fran -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!272!94!Fran.O'gorman Internet: Fran.O'gorman@f94.n272.z1.fidonet.org
Jay.Croft@p0.f147.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Jay Croft) (01/26/91)
Index Number: 13209 [This is from the Silent Talk Conference] Ah, but deaf children can be VERY expressive. There was an AT&T commercial last year with some absolutely darling deaf kids, signing. -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!109!147.0!Jay.Croft Internet: Jay.Croft@p0.f147.n109.z1.fidonet.org
Tzipporah.Benavraham@f608.n107.z1.fidonet.org (Tzipporah Benavraham) (02/05/91)
Index Number: 13485 [This is from the Silent Talk Conference] Well, I know what you are saying... a little sign is not like fuill knowledge. I read those. I think though there is another tangent here. This is ONE KIND of communication method. We are doing an array of intros to the use of "alternative communications" for them also a as a film. Remember that Mary uses a WOLF also? Well some people use Bliss boards, some use other augmentative speech devices, and some use other kinds of methods of speech communication. I know a mentally retarded young lady who uses pictures. She points to the picture of what she wants. You see SOME understanding is important. Let me be graphic. There was a deaf man here in the area who got out of his car to throw away some garbage in a garbage can. he parked only for a moment to do that. A meter maid started shouting at him while his back was turned. The Meter maid did not know he was deaf. She walked over to him and starting hitting him on the shoulder as he was eating a candy bar and throwing away the wrapper. As e turned around she saw the fact she was furious and lipread "why are you ignoring me? I will add another fine for that". He started using sign and she just kept hitting his hands. She said to the sargrant later he was "flailing his hands around trying to hit her". he was trying in sign to show her he was deaf and did not hear her. Now as it happens this meter maid NEVER SAW SIGN IN HER LIFE. So a program like this would have introduced her to the issues and made hr aware. You see the lack of know;ledge even a little bit caused this man alot of greif. I still say the program and words are very important. It will be part of the communication aids film also showing and expalining what this is. It is only meant to b an intro.. not an end all. But it still may save lives. -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!107!608!Tzipporah.Benavraham Internet: Tzipporah.Benavraham@f608.n107.z1.fidonet.org