[misc.handicap] Cold Feet & Aching Ankles

Jean.Prophet@f33.n371.z1.fidonet.org (Jean Prophet) (12/21/90)

Index Number: 12562

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

      Buddy has been complaining of his feet being cold (freezing he says) 
and then his ankles start to ache .... Do others here have the same 
symptoms ??

      The weather here has dropped down into the 40's at night - Buddy says 
that when the 'cooler' temperatures come - this happens (BUT, it also 
happens in the middle of the summer -- *I* rememer when he curled up on the 
couch this summer with a blanket and I was hotter than all get out <grin>).

      Any suggestions on how I can help him become more comfortable ??

                                    Jean

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Ruthie.Hoffman@f223.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Ruthie Hoffman) (12/21/90)

Index Number: 12567

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 >       Buddy has been complaining of his feet being cold
 > (freezing he says) and then his ankles start to ache .... Do
 > others here have the same symptoms ??

Hiya Jean!
    Well.....cold weather has been upon us up here in NY state for 
awhile now.  I too suffer from freezing..I mean FREEZING feet and 
aching ankles.  This is a new symptom for me since the injury and 
surgery on my back.  It is much worse this winter than last, also.
I have been experimenting with various combinations to try to keep my 
feet and ankles feeling warmer.  Lately I have been doing this....
I put on a pair of ligh weight cotton socks.  Then a pair of those 
fuzzy-ish type socks...kinda like the footies type, but these go up 
past my ankles.  THEN I put on a heavy pair of wool hunting socks that 
go almost up to my knees.  If I am walking about the house,
I slip on my bootie slippers that have a great non skid sole.
All this I hide under a pair of sweatpants....  or slacks/jeans
if I am out and about where sweatpants just don't make the grade.
I have found that the layering method works the best for me.
Last night, while watching a
movie on the VCR, my feet just wouldn't warm up, so I tucked an afghan 
around my feet and up around my knees.  It seemed to catch my body 
heat and help to warm things up.

Hope this helps a bit!  Ruthie

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Harry.London@f1000.n261.z1.fidonet.org (Harry London) (12/21/90)

Index Number: 12569

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

 RH>  >       Buddy has been complaining of his feet being cold
 RH>  > (freezing he says) and then his ankles start to ache .... Do
 RH>  > others here have the same symptoms ??
Ruthie, I am sorry about the cold, butglad to have the subject come up 
here. I am a T-10 para, so in theory there's o feeling in the feet or 
butt. But by golly when the weather turns cold, my feet feel as though 
there are cold, and so does the bottom. I'd be interested to know if a;
nybody out there knows why this should be so. I ahve also been advised to 
put on stockings, etc. Sometimes I wonder if I shouldn't be looking 
toward a tropical latitude when winter sets in. Best,
Harry

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Joe.Chamberlain@f140.n150.z1.fidonet.org (Joe Chamberlain) (12/21/90)

Index Number: 12571

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 JP> Any suggestions on how I can help him become more comfortable ??
     
        I experience the same thing in not being able to regulate 
my body temperture.  It can be 90 degrees and I can be freezing 
my buns off.  On it can be 20 degree and I can feel happy running 
around with my jacket open.

        Like Buddy, when I get cold I cover up and try to get 
warm.  Many times this results in me beginning to sweat and 
getting colder.  I find drinking lots of hot tea helps get me 
warm.

        I wish I knew the answer to this one.

                                -=joe=-

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Steve.Hedges@f1000.n261.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Hedges) (12/21/90)

Index Number: 12573

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

I have had problems with cold lower leg, primarily the left, at just 
above the ankle for about eight years.  It comes on about Nov/Dec or when 
it gets colder.  An apt description would be to imagine that someone had 
placed a ring of ice around the leg.  Most of the time it is a dull ache, 
but it can be quite painful.  Wearing leggins or long socks does not 
help.  I have had EXTENSIVE testing done, from nerve conduction, to blood 
analysis, to circulatory specialists, to . . . .
   Last winter I was on 1600 mg Ibuprofin per day to reduce inflamation 
from a pinched nerve or partially herniated disk.  It took a while to 
recognize it, but the coldness did not return until early Feb when I went 
off the Ibuprofin.
   My only conclusion is that some NSIADs may allieviate the coldness, or 
that the coldness is caused by some sort of inflamation that is brought 
on by cold weather.  Oh yes, my coldness is more noticable when I am 
sitting -- doesn't bother me after lying down for a while.
   I didn't mean to lay out my woes, but maybe you can find a thread that 
will help.
                                  >< Steve ><

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Jean.Prophet@f33.n371.z1.fidonet.org (Jean Prophet) (12/21/90)

Index Number: 12575

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

 >  >       Buddy has been complaining of his feet being cold
 >  > (freezing he says) and then his ankles start to ache .... Do
 >  > others here have the same symptoms ??
 >
 > Hiya Jean!

      Hiya Ruthie .... glad to hear from you again.

 > movie on the VCR, my feet just wouldn't warm up, so I tucked an
 > afghan around my feet and up around my knees.  It seemed to catch my
 > body heat and help to warm things up.
 > Hope this helps a bit!  Ruthie

      We've done all that PLUS put the heating pad on Buddy's feet (usually 
under the blanket we've wrapped around his feet and ankles).  Buddy says 
that this helps UNTIL he unwraps his feet from the heating pad .... then 
he's cold all over again .... It's funny how an injury in your neck and/or 
back will make your feet and ankles so cold, isn't it ??

                              Jean & Buddy

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Joe.Chamberlain@f140.n150.z1.fidonet.org (Joe Chamberlain) (12/21/90)

Index Number: 12578

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

 JP>> Any suggestions on how I can help him become more comfortable ??

        I spoke with a friend and he suggested that the feeling 
of coldness in the hands and feet are common when the body is not 
getting enough oxygen.  With quads, since we have low lung 
capacity this may be a contributing cause.  He suggested we could 
try some deep breathing routines to see if that would help.

                                -=joe=-

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Jean.Prophet@f33.n371.z1.fidonet.org (Jean Prophet) (12/21/90)

Index Number: 12583

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

 > Ruthie, I am sorry about the cold, butglad to have the subject come
 > up here. I am a T-10 para, so in theory there's o feeling in the feet
 > or butt. But by golly when the weather turns cold, my feet feel as
 > though there are cold, and so does the bottom. I'd be interested to
 > know if a; nybody out there knows why this should be so. I ahve also
 > been advised to put on stockings, etc. Sometimes I wonder if I
 > shouldn't be looking toward a tropical latitude when winter sets in.

      We LIVE in a tropical latitude (LaBelle, Florida) and Buddy says that 
doesn't help much <grin> - his feet get cold <freezing> and then he says 
his ankles start to ache .... (Buddy's injuries are C4,C5,C6 - his spinal 
injury is an incomplete one).

      I figure if he has this much trouble in FLORIDA that I could just 
imagine what you all are going through up in the colder parts of the US.

                                    Jean & Buddy

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Jerry.Pickup@p33.f1.n360.z1.fidonet.org (Jerry Pickup) (12/21/90)

Index Number: 12585

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In a message to All <10 Dec 90 18:13:00> Jean Prophet wrote:

 JP>      Buddy has been complaining of his feet being cold (freezing
 JP>      Any suggestions on how I can help him become more comfortable ??

I know a real fun way to stay warm and I'll bet you wouldn't hear
any complaints from Buddy either!! <grin>

Seriously, I think (In my non-expert opinion) that the cold feet
probably have more to do with circulation than anything.  I'm not
sure how to improve one's circulation, but that might be a place to
start looking.  (My original suggestion would do some good for his
circulation too!)  <grin>

                                       -Jerry

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madams@ecst.csuchico.edu (Michael E. Adams) (12/29/90)

Index Number: 12592

In article <16492@bunker.UUCP> Ruthie.Hoffman@f223.n260.z1.fidonet.org writes:
>Index Number: 12567
>
> >       Buddy has been complaining of his feet being cold
> > (freezing he says) and then his ankles start to ache .... Do
> > others here have the same symptoms ??

I still don't know what makes my feet get cold. Some times, like right now
they are bone cold, but the room is so warm I have my shirt off! 

Regradless of how they got cold, the real trick is not keeping them warm,
but getting them warm.  Ten layers of insulation won't help if the feet
are already cold.  So what I like to do is soak my feet in some nice hot
water.  This warms the skin up & trigers all sorts of circulation.  Then
put on some warm socks & I'm set for hours of bliss & warmth.   I would love
to stay & chat but I'm due in the bathroom for a foot washing.  I bet I
have the cleanest toes in town!.... oh this is real weird my feet just got
warmer while I was composing this letter about taking hot foot baths!  Is
this like twilight zone or what?  (think warm thought!?)

Harry.London@f1000.n261.z1.fidonet.org (Harry London) (01/09/91)

Index Number: 12729

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

 RH> your bottom!  I have been experiencing that also, and have finally 
 RH> tried polypropelene underwear!!  It works pretty good too, underneath 
 RH> sweatpants or slacks.  The polypropelene sock liners help too.  I am 

That's the first substantive suggestion anybody has ever made to me on 
this subject--physiatrists, therapists, neurosurgeons, neurologists 
included. I will try.

 RH> As I plan on talking with the neurosurgeon again next week, I too 
 RH> would like to know why this is happening and will ask him.

I would be very interested in hearing what he has to tell you on this 
score. Appreciate your responsiveness, and look forweard to hearing from 
you onscreen. You keep warm, too.
                                       Harry

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Frank.Whitney@f1000.n261.z1.fidonet.org (Frank Whitney) (02/05/91)

Index Number: 13516

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

Dear Jean and Buddy,
>From reading the messages that I've seen in this post it looks  like
your getting good information.  I especially agree with Zack and Joe.
The idea of a walker or other assistive device to help keep Buddy from
falling I believe is excellent.  I also think that if my message
packet has already left it also had that idea conveyed.  If it didn't
it should have.  I also think that it might be a good idea as Zack
said to get some additional counseling.  The stress levels for the two
of you has to be going through the roof.  I know that when these
problems occur with Jeanne that's what we do.  It really helps to
sometimes be able to vocalize these problems.  I know that the board
helps but sometimes that's not enough.  It's better to get help before
rather then too late.  I guess that I've gone on long enough.
My best to you and Buddy.
Frank.

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