[misc.handicap] SSI, PARKING PLACARDS, HEALTH INS.

Vixen@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.org (Vixen) (03/16/91)

Index Number: 14030

Hi,

Well, you know, your idea about the picture placards seems so
reasonable and applicable, that you would almost think that the
Department of Motor Vehicles would have thought of that in the
first place!

You know, it would'nt keep those who park in restricted places
without placards (or DP plates) from doing so, but it sure would
cut down on Placard abuse I bet.

In California, that I am aware of, there are only two (civilian
type) vechicles allowed to park in restricted spaces, cars with DP
plates or cars displaying the big Placard in the window.

However, there is a particularly nasty restricted space user that
my friend Kris and I have found on a number of occassions. These
are people who buy stickers that indicate a handicapped person and
they stick them on their car windows in order to use those same
spaces.

They use both the standard blue box with the wheelchair in it or a
round one that indicates the prescence of a disABLED person and yet
their vehicle displays no DP plates or Placard! "Anyone" can get
those stickers and some people do and will then park in retsricted
spots. Those stickeres also have no expiration dates or anything
like that, so those people will keep up that abuse probably until
and then only (if) they get caught.

Keepin' the faith!

.                         Vixen

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Julie.More@p2.f223.n163.z1.fidonet.org (Julie More) (03/21/91)

Index Number: 14105

In a message of <23 Feb 91 15:17:05>, Frank Whitney (1:261/1000) writes:

 >It's times like that where if I wouldn't get a ticket that I'd love
 >to block the other person into that spot until I returned.

Actually a friend of mine did that. <smile>  He was going to the
shopping centre, but all the disabled parking spaces were filled.
So he parked behind one of them which did not have the handicapped
parking permit.  Sure enough about 5 minutes later this lady came
running out, got in her car to drive away and noticed my friend
sitting in his car behind her.  So she got out, and asked him to
move his car.  He told her, no, since she took one of his parking
spaces.  She said she just ran in to get something.  He told her
that was not a good excuse.  Anyway to make a long story short, he
made her wait about 10 minutes before he moved his car.  I don't
think she will ever park in a handicap parking space again. <smile>

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Vixen@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.org (Vixen) (03/21/91)

Index Number: 14109

Hi Linda,

The warning tickets are cards that Kris and I put on Cars parked
illegally in restricted spaces and are printed up by Voc Rehab.
They are really neat. They look very official and contain a text
warning that such spaces are meant only for handicapped persons
whose vechicles display either DP plates or a Placard. They also
inform the violators just how expensive the fine for abusing those
spaces really is.

Well, I think you have to use your judgement when tagging those
violators. However, as far as Kris and I are concerned, if the car
has no DP plates or Placard displayed, it is then fair game!  There
are elderly persons who use those spaces (without authorization)
and while I don't resent an older person who has walking problems
using such spaces, we figure it is still better to tag their car.
At least that way, they get a warning that might help prevent them
from getting a rather large fine dropped upon them! Some elderly
persons think they may use those spaces just because they are older
regardless of the quality of their mobility.

Also, disABLED persons who don't have a placard or DP plates and
use those spaces may as well be tagged too! For even though they
may qualify to use such spaces, to do so without the Placard or DP
plates encourages others to do the same and it is not fair to those
who do go through the DMV and medical certification procedure to be
able to use those spaces. Tagging such cars as these are afterall,
just a matter of "education" and might save some people who cannot
afford it, a rather hefty fine in this state!

While I am familiar with the Oakland and Berkeley area, I live in
Sacramento and so cannot address the hows, wheres and whys and
number of specific retricted parking spaces are decided upon in
your area. Or, not really here in Sacto either. I suppose, on
private property such as Grocery and department store, theatres,
malls and places like that, the number of such spaces may simply be
arbitrary. Here in Sacramento, one commercial area will seem to
have quite a few spaces while another of sim ilar size will have
precious few. I am not sure how all of this works. Of course, we
are also allowed to park at parking meters free, in areas meant for
commercial patrons and area prefered for residential types and at
Many Green marked areas without need to observe the often limited
hours that non disABLED are alotted while parked in such places.
Even so, I know that in San Francisco for example, it can still
almost be impossible to find some where to park near whereever it
is one must go!

As to the matter of faith, well, I cannot define for it you, but
for me, it is my deep abiding Faith in God and Jesus Christ the
saviour, despite the craziness of the world, the hard things that
are often thrown in my face and the gift of belief and hope for
"this poor poor poor" example of a Christian.

Yes, there are any number of groups or support groups for disABLED
persons who always always welcome new members. Do you have specific
area of interest? I may not be able to give you an Oakland referel
but I might be able to give you a Sacramento Group who then might
tell you where you can find a bay area group of interest. (I have
been a Volunteer with Mental Health Association for better than
three years now and have a number of resources available.)

Keepin' the faith!

.                            Vixen

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