Jack.O'keeffe@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Jack O'keeffe) (03/15/91)
Index Number: 13985
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FO> I must say it was good to see CNN FINALLY get closed
FO> captioning--it's about time! And a direct result of positive
FO> activism, now that's where energies should be channeled! They
FO> even get results! :-)
We're on a roll with captioning advocacy, Fran. First C-Span, then
CNN, and now, guess what! The local CBS outlet has even started
putting closed captions on the segments from our old friend,
"Dr. Red Duke". The way he mumbles through his bushy mustache,
the hearies will have to ask those of us with decoders to
explain what he is saying :-)
... Live, from Beaver County, it's . . . .
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Internet: Jack.O'keeffe@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.orgbillr@truevision.com (Bill Romanowski) (03/21/91)
Index Number: 14084 I am trying to find out all I can about captioning. Not only the technical side but the consumers side as well. What works well? What would work better. Any input or info would be most helpful. Thank you. bill romanowski
Jack.O'keeffe@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Jack O'keeffe) (03/22/91)
Index Number: 14125
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Hi Fran. Good to hear from you.
FO> glad to hear about more stations getting closed captioning too.
FO> (Actually they all should have it, of course, but some is
FO> better than none I suppose.)
Sooner or later they all will caption, Fran. Captioning is not just
for deaf people anymore. Increasingly, it is serving as a medium to
help individuals develop skills in english as a second language.
This has been most effective with Asian and Hispanic immigrants.
They can hear and SEE the words, which accelerates learning.
The FCC must release the rules for the built-in decoder chip by
April 15. Then we will begin to see TV receivers with captioning
included at no extra cost. Soon all sets 13" and larger will have
this feature. Then the programming that does not include closed
captioning will begin to lose a measureable amount of viewership.
They will be faced with the "dinosaur's choice - adapt or die".
Like I said, we're on a roll now!
Have a glorious St. Patrick's Day! (Stu and I plan to celebrate
by attending a workshop on AT&T's new dual party TDD relay :-)
Jack.
... Carpe Diem!
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Internet: Jack.O'keeffe@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.orgJack.O'keeffe@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Jack O'keeffe) (03/23/91)
Index Number: 14142
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FO> Oh enjoy the workshop--sounds like a neat thing--is it like a
FO> conference call --but with TDD?
Not like a confrence call, Fran. It was concerning the relatively
new Pennsylvania Dual Party TDD Relay that enables statewide calls
between TDDs and voice phones. A real blessing for hearing impaired
and/or speech impaired people, since there does not have to be a TDD
on the other end of the call.
The workshop was too crowded. I learned very little new, and I expect
that Stu learned nothing at all that was new to him. On the plus
side, the workshop facilitator from AT&T was a former Miss Deaf
Minnesota (and runner-up for Miss Deaf USA) so we couldn't consider
the afternoon a total waste ;-) She signed too swiftly for my very
limited receptive ASL skills, but she was super easy to speechread.
That and the fact that Stu is very good company made it a worthwhile
St. Patrick's Day afternoon.
Jack.
... Live, from Beaver County, it's . . . .
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Internet: Jack.O'keeffe@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.orgStu.Turk@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Stu Turk) (03/28/91)
Index Number: 14525
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To: billr@truevision.com (Bill Romanowski)
BR> I am trying to find out all I can about captioning.
BR> Not only the technical side but the consumers side as well.
BR> What works well? What would work better.
From the consumer side, some captioning goes too fast to be read,
especially if you also have any vision problems.
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Internet: Stu.Turk@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.orgJay.Croft@p0.f147.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Jay Croft) (03/28/91)
Index Number: 14530
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There are several captioning companies. The National Association of
Shorthand Reporters is also involved. For specific information, contact
the National Captioning Institute or other captioning agencies.
What, specifically, is your question?
Best wishes.
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Internet: Jay.Croft@p0.f147.n109.z1.fidonet.orgAnn.Stalnaker@p0.f14.n385.z1.fidonet.org (Ann Stalnaker) (03/28/91)
Index Number: 14536 [This is from the Silent Talk Conference] To: billr@truevision.com (Bill Romanowski) > I am trying to find out all I can about captioning. > Not only the technical side but the consumers side as well. > What works well? What would work better. > Any input or info would be most helpful. IMHO (in my humble opinion), I think it would be nice if the first name of the speaker (pardon such a term - can't think of a better one at this time) would appear before the printed text of closed captioning across the screen. Sometimes it is very confusing to figure out who is saying this and that... As a rule, I feel the captioning concept is pretty good with the exception of misspelled names/words from time to time. I realize it is often during live captioning that this happens. The main improvement needs to be centered on live captioning, especially during the news coverage as it is often very difficult to follow, especially for the average reader. I'd like to think about this a bit more and if I run across anything else I think might help improve closed captioning, I'll post them. Perhaps some of the others will have some suggestions I have not mentioned. -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!385!14.0!Ann.Stalnaker Internet: Ann.Stalnaker@p0.f14.n385.z1.fidonet.org
Wayne.Roorda@f14.n385.z1.fidonet.org (Wayne Roorda) (03/28/91)
Index Number: 14538
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To: billr@truevision.com (Bill Romanowski)
Hi Bill,
Well from a consumer's point of view, I'd like for advertiser's to
coordinate the captions with the creation of their advertisements,
rather than just adding the captions after the ad has been made in
the majority of the cases.
All to often the captions clash with the background of the ad. For
example when the advertisement uses a mixture of dark colors in the
background and then a sudden change to a bright white background the
standard black strip with white captions get lost while the eyes are
trying to adjust to the sudden change.
I might be a bit biased, since I work with computer generated graphics
for presentations and also do some Desk-Top Publishing in my office.
Wayne
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