Chip.Orange@f778.n115.z1.fidonet.org (Chip Orange) (07/21/90)
Index Number: 9373 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] I've had a chance over the past two months to work with a Kurzweil Personal Reader at home and an Arkenstone read at work and would like to share my impressions of both of them. I think I'll list various categories, and give each machine a rating from 1-10 (where 10 is the best). This is not something carefully thought out, so if you have any questions afterwards, don't hesitate to ask. Over-all recognition capabilities: KPR 8, Arkenstone 7. The KPR does seem a little better over-all, much better at reading books and small print because of the 400 DPI book-edge scanner. The arkenstone is better at dot-matrix print if you need to read that, I never have had the ocasion. Ease of use: KPR 8, Arkenstone 5. Even with the Easy-scan software I beleive the KPR is much wasier to use. This is especially true if the blind person contemplating the reading machine doesn't know how to type. Reliability: KPR 3, Arkenstone 8. My KPR has had a miriad of hardware and software problems, and I understand from other owners this is the norm, not the exception. The only problem with the Arkenstone is that documents scanned with the sheet feeder turn out much poorer than when manually fed. I beleive the feeder is out of adjustment, but can't get Arkenstone to do anything about it. Warantee service: KPR 8, Arkenstone 5. When I had my problems with the KPR, they did Fed Exp. me a new one and paid to have my old one returned to them. I couldn't even get Arkenstone to agree to service the document feeder that seems to be giving problems, even if we paid shipping both ways. Unusual features: Here I'll list unusual features possessed by one or the other machine. The KPR has the ability to "learn" the text it is reading. This means that a second scanning of a page is usually much better than the first scan, and all subsequent pages keep improving. The Arkenstone allows you to scan just a small segment of the top or bottom of the page. Especially helpful if you're looking at page numbers. The Kurzweil can read one page to you while it is scanning the next. For reading books this is especially nice. The Kurzweil's maximum reading speed is 350 WPM. I can barely understand things at that speed, so have no trouble with this, but others have mentioned to me that they would like a higher speed. The Arkenstone's speed is determined by the synthesizer being used. The KPR does need "lightening" or "darkening" adjustments for scanning like the Arkenstone, it does this automatically. The KPR does have the hand held camera as an option, but I didn't purchase it because I simply couldn't make it work in my demo. Others may be able to use it and if so, it would make a nice addition. I hope things ramblings help someone in selecting the right reading machine for them, and would be interested in any comments from others who have had significant time with both systems. Chip Orange -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!115!778!Chip.Orange Internet: Chip.Orange@f778.n115.z1.fidonet.org
Maggi.Weslager@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Maggi Weslager) (07/21/90)
Index Number: 9378 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] Chip, In addition to your informative "comparison" message I would like to mention that the Arkenstone is not compatable with a Packard Bell BIOS...something worth noting before an equipment purchase. -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!89.0!Maggi.Weslager Internet: Maggi.Weslager@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Bryan.Blazie@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Bryan Blazie) (07/21/90)
Index Number: 9379 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] this is only true of some of the packard bell systems I beleave so call your local dealer befor jumping the gun -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!89.0!Bryan.Blazie Internet: Bryan.Blazie@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Gary.Petraccaro@f90.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Gary Petraccaro) (07/24/90)
Index Number: 9415 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] Chip, Thanks for the KPR/Arkenstone comparison. Covered all my concerns except one. From your message I get the impression that the Arkenstone you used only had a 300 dpi scanner. Isn't there a 400 dpi scanner now available for the Arkenstone and do you think that would make books more readable? Thanks, Gary -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!90!Gary.Petraccaro Internet: Gary.Petraccaro@f90.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Donald.Breda@f460.n101.z1.fidonet.org (Donald Breda) (07/24/90)
Index Number: 9426 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] CO> I've had a chance over the past two months to work with a CO> Kurzweil Personal Reader at home and an Arkenstone read at work CO> and would like to share my impressions of both of them. I CO> think I'll list various categories, and give each machine a CO> rating from 1-10 (where 10 is the best). This is not something CO> carefully thought out, so if you have any questions afterwards, CO> don't hesitate to ask. CO> Over-all recognition capabilities: KPR 8, Arkenstone 7. The CO> KPR does seem a little better over-all, much better at reading CO> books and small print because of the 400 DPI book-edge scanner. CO> The arkenstone is better at dot-matrix print if you need to CO> read that, I never have had the ocasion. CO> Well Chip, what version of the KPR firmware are you using? I was a beta tester for the KPR and I would never say that it had better recognition then the Arkenstone. It's inability to read numbers consistantly or fractions for that matter certainly hurt its usefulness in my case. I could read a phone bill on the Arkenstone and pay it, I would never do that with the KPR. CO> Ease of use: KPR 8, Arkenstone 5. Even with the Easy-scan CO> software I beleive the KPR is much wasier to use. This is CO> especially true if the blind person contemplating the reading CO> machine doesn't know how to type. CO> Reliability: KPR 3, Arkenstone 8. My KPR has had a miriad of CO> hardware and software problems, and I understand from other CO> owners this is the norm, not the exception. The only problem CO> with the Arkenstone is that documents scanned with the sheet CO> feeder turn out much poorer than when manually fed. I beleive CO> the feeder is out of adjustment, but can't get Arkenstone to do CO> anything about it. CO> Warantee service: KPR 8, Arkenstone 5. When I had my problems CO> with the KPR, they did Fed Exp. me a new one and paid to have CO> my old one returned to them. I couldn't even get Arkenstone to CO> agree to service the document feeder that seems to be giving CO> problems, even if we paid shipping both ways. CO> Well Chip, I believe you should have delt with Calera directly on that one, not sure though. Maybe Les or another dealer could chime in here. I am disappointed to hear that though. CO> Unusual features: I think that when compareing the KPR and the Arkenstone though Chip that your comparing apples and oranges. It might be a more valid comparison to put the Kurzweil PCKPR the pc reader up against the arkenstone. The Kurzweil stand alone personal reader I believe addresses a completely different market then the Arkenstone does. It is great for someone that doesn't know a thing about computers and doesn't care too. for the power computer user though, I believe the arkenstone is the scanner of choice since it just has so much more capabilities. ... Abled, Blinktalk and sSilver xpress in Boston 9600 HST -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!101!460!Donald.Breda Internet: Donald.Breda@f460.n101.z1.fidonet.org
Chip.Orange@f778.n115.z1.fidonet.org (Chip Orange) (07/24/90)
Index Number: 9427 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] Hi Gary, Sorry, should have been clearer about that, it's important. You can get a 400 DPI scanner for the Arkenstone, but it has a couple of drawbacks that the KPR one doesn't. First, it can't scan the entire page at that resolution. Most, but not all of it. Second, it's not a book-edge scanner. That is, you can place a book on the KPR scanner where the scanner edge is right up in the spine of the book, and it will read virtually up into the spine. On the Arkenstone one, you must guestimate the position of the scanning edge, which is not the edge of the scanner itself, and position the spine there, where a significant amount of the page is left curving up and away from the scanning glass. The KPR also has a sloping front to better support the part of the book not on the scanning glass, and allows you to flip the book over when a page is done and scan in the reverse direction, thereby allowing you to use only one side of the scanner, and to be able to push the other near to a wall. The arkenstone one makes you move the book over to the other side of the scanner to read the other page. While the 400 DPI scanner will help in reading smaller print, I don't beleive it is as good for reading bound books as the KPR book-edge scanner. By the way, I mentioned my concerns to Kurzweil along with my intension to write a more complete comparison article for a magazine, and they're sending me a KPR with beta 2.0 to play with for a month to allow me to include it in the article as well. -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!115!778!Chip.Orange Internet: Chip.Orange@f778.n115.z1.fidonet.org
Chip.Orange@f778.n115.z1.fidonet.org (Chip Orange) (07/25/90)
Index Number: 9479 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] Hi Donald, I was using version 1.1 of the KPR firmware and don't understand why, if you were using that version, you had so much trouble. It is as good over-all as the Arkenstone on the first pass, and on the second after it has "learned", it generally is better. Yes, I know very well that the two products are aimed at different markets, and therefore was only trying to compare them on their general reading machine like characteristics. This is certainly a trait they have in common, and a very valid comparison. I am not sure what all "extra capabilities" you feel the Arkenstone has that the KPR doesn't. The two I can think of are dot-matrix print, and landscape print. That is it, and the PC/KPR has both of those as well. By the way, Kurzweil is shipping me a PC/KPR to review as well before I write an article on the subject. One last point that comes to mind is the speed of scanning. I didn't mention it in the review, and should have. I found that the KPR scans an average page in about 45 seconds, while the Arkenstone takes about 90. This rule of twice as long generally holds as far as I can tell. Will be interested to see how the PC/KPR does here. Chip -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!115!778!Chip.Orange Internet: Chip.Orange@f778.n115.z1.fidonet.org
Tandy.Way@f6.n377.z1.fidonet.org (Tandy Way) (07/25/90)
Index Number: 9493 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] MW> In addition to your informative "comparison" message I MW> would like to mention that the Arkenstone is not MW> compatable with a Packard Bell BIOS...something worth noting MW> before an equipment purchase. I should be further noted that the paccard bell bios gives a lot of problems with software and hard ware compatability so to say that it is a compatible clone would misslead some. So guys and galls when you are out there purchasing computers might better steer clear of packard bell no matter what the sales pitch. tandy MW> --- via Silver Xpress V2.24 [NR] MW> * Origin: BlinkLink - Perceiving is believing! 412-766-0732 MW> (1:129/89.0) ... PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN GLASS HOUSES USE WINDEX. -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!377!6!Tandy.Way Internet: Tandy.Way@f6.n377.z1.fidonet.org
Gary.Petraccaro@f90.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Gary Petraccaro) (07/25/90)
Index Number: 9495 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] Chip, After responding to your message I remembered about one Les Barr left some time ago. He was talking about doing some scanning for his wife and printed some material which he had scanned into a file. It seemed to be from a romance novel required for one of her courses. What struck me was that the Arkenstone appeared to do a significantly better job with this material than I thought the Kurzweil would have. I had tried to get the Kurzweil to read a standard mass market paperback book and made little headway. With Les attempt, you could follow the story line fairly well even though there were dropouts as one would expect. The Kurzweil did very well with trade sized paperbacks and probably would do at least as well with hard covers. Please, if you can, check out my impressions. On another matter, could you also report on the handling of the kind of software manual where they print sample screens? As I remember it, some manuals print these in color so that the screen and page look similar (not certain of this, though). Gary -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!90!Gary.Petraccaro Internet: Gary.Petraccaro@f90.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Gary.Petraccaro@f90.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Gary Petraccaro) (07/28/90)
Index Number: 9581 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] You should be ok if it's an unmodified Phoenix BIOS. Check for the version. -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!90!Gary.Petraccaro Internet: Gary.Petraccaro@f90.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Les.Barr@f41.n147.z1.fidonet.org (Les Barr) (07/28/90)
Index Number: 9584 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] MW-"Don, MW-" I recently attended an Arkenstone demo at the University of MW-"Pittsburgh and during the demo Dessie Page mentioned that the MW-"Arkenstone MW-"was compatible with everything except a Packard Bell BIOS. Well, I MW-"was MW-"a little disheartened with that statement because I had just purchased MW-"a MW-"Packard Bell 286. When I had my Sounding Board installed I was told MW-"that my machine contained a Phoenix Bios so I assume I could use an MW-"Arkenstone. Dessie, are you out there? Maybe you could enlighten us MW-"on this subject. Maggi, I am an ARKENSTONE Rep so I hope I'll do. I have just spoken with the tech at ARKENSTONE, and as far as either of us has been able to acertain, there has only been one report of a Packard Bell computer not working with the ARKENSTONE hardware. This was a Packard Bell model 5, with a built in VGA card, and very possibly could have been solved, but the customer opted to buy another computer to run their ARKENSTONE on instead of working out the memory addressing problem. Since I am writing this late at night, I have no way of verifying which system this was, but from the sound of it with a built in VGA, it was most likely a 386 system. ARKENSTONE is reluctant to say, "No the ARKENSTONE will not work with Packard Bell Bios," but cannot say, "Yes it will" either. There is just no conclusive evidence either way. The only conclusive way to find out if it will work with your particular computer system, is to try it out on your system. If you buy an inexpensive system, there is always a chance you are not getting exactly an IBM/compatible system, and there is a possibility that the ARKENSTONE will not work with it. We are currently advising customers to buy their clones with the contengency that it will work with the ARKENSTONE OCR setup, before the sale is final. You can also get some solace by inquiring whether the system you are buying has a standard 8 megahertz bus. If it has a ten megahertz bus, chances are that it will not work with the ARKENSTONE OCR, and you are not getting a true clone. Hope this helps, -Les B -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!147!41!Les.Barr Internet: Les.Barr@f41.n147.z1.fidonet.org
Mary.Otten@p0.f1055.n261.z1.fidonet.org (Mary Otten) (04/13/91)
Index Number: 14823 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] I'm late getting in on this discussion. The kind sysop of the Keeping Room just got this echo. So, if you'll forgive me, I'm wondering why you like the pc-kpr versus the arkenstone? You're the first one I've heard that likes kpr better. I know you said pc kpr, and I've never seen that, and all the comparrisons I've heard are between kpr and arkenstone, and arkenstone was better. We have some kind of kurzweil scanner at work, and it may be with that sight oriented software you mentioned. Since the computer it's on doesn't have speech, the blind folks can't set the software and as often as not, the scanner works, well like crap. So, what is the pc kpr? How much is it and why is it better than arkenstone? Any info would be appreciated. The only bad thing I've heard about arkenstone is that the documentation is terrible and it can be confusing to run if you're not a computer genius. Is pc krp easier? Doesn't sound like it if that discover software is as complicated as you say. -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!261!1055.0!Mary.Otten Internet: Mary.Otten@p0.f1055.n261.z1.fidonet.org
Dave.Tanner@p0.f210.n273.z1.fidonet.org (Dave Tanner) (04/13/91)
Index Number: 14825 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] Thanks for your answer. You can get 400 DPI with the Arkenstone by using the Panasonic 505 or 506 scanners, but the HP Scan Jet Plus, while rated at 600 DPI actually only does 300 DPI as you mention in your message. This is something that I hope arkenstone will do soon is to fully use the capabilities of that scanner. You are also correct that a document placed on the scanner upside down does take longer to scan, but I doubt it takes as long as redoing the entire scan 3 or four times till you get it placed on the sdcanner in the proper direction. In addition I have already ran into things, mainly magazines and print-outs that were too wide to place them on the scanner one particular way and be able to scan the entire page. -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!273!210.0!Dave.Tanner Internet: Dave.Tanner@p0.f210.n273.z1.fidonet.org
Christopher.Hill@p233.f4115.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Christopher Hill) (04/13/91)
Index Number: 14836 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] The pckpr comes with two software packages. The first is the pckpr package which is a breeze to use, and does a pretty good job, in my opinion. It doesn't have all the fancy features like recognizing when a page is turned the wrong way, but I can usually figure that one out for myself. The discover software, like I might have mentioned isn't easy to use, at least at first. Once you get used to it though, it does a great job on long documents like books. For short things like bills, the pckpr is easier to use because there's practically nothing to change. For books on the other hand, I'll often pick a page at random, and scan it several times, changing the settings, until I get it as good as possible, then use these settings for the whole book. I use the discover software, mainly because it'll let me scan pages to image format, then convert them later, like when I'm asleep. The arkenstone cando this as well, but my friend has never gotten his to make small enough image files to make it practical. My images usually are about 150K so I can fit 150 pages or so onto my hard disk, before I've got to convert. Other things the discover has which I haven't found in the arkenstone is the ability to change how the text is translated, such as lexical context, and 16 levels of brightness. Sometimes a change of 1 can make all the difference in the world. My advice: try getting speech on the machine with the kerzweil scanner, you might be surprised. Later.. Chris data is just data, information is useful. -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!124!4115.233!Christopher.Hill Internet: Christopher.Hill@p233.f4115.n124.z1.fidonet.org
Jim.Fruchterman@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Jim Fruchterman) (04/13/91)
Index Number: 14841 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] Hi, I just dropped in on this thread and thought I'd add a little bit. Batch processing is where you scan now, recognize later. You spend a half hour scanning the pages of a book, two at a time, saving the images on disk, one scan every twenty or thirty seconds. The recognition, which might take two or three minutes a pair of pages, is done later while you aren't slaving over the scanner. It is a really big win over scanning for four or five hours waiting for each page to finish. I want to point out that Arkenstone ships two major interfaces with each system: EasyScan and ArkScan. ArkScan is the standard Calera commercial menu system wuth the new Arkenstone features of automatic orientation, quick speech, tone feedback, verbosity settings, prompt settings, user dictionaries, etc. added into it, and, made so it works smoothly with access device. The benefit is that it offers a menu interface instead of the command driven easyscan interface, for people who like menus better than command driven stuff. An advantage compared to the Kurzweil menu system is that you don't have to step through each menu choice to change something - you can go directly to it. On the HP ScanJet Plus 600 dpi issue - that is marketing hype that HP got dragged into. All scanners commonly available have 300 dpi or 400 dpi scanning elements. Those who claim more than their scanning element are doing pixel doubling or averaging. This adds no more information for OCR and slows done the process. Running an HP at more than 300 dpi is a waste of time. The Panasonic is the unit that we recommend for 400 dpi scanning, for people who really need to read small stuff. But remember, the Calera spec for point size reading using 300 dpi images is the same as the Kurzweil 400 dpi spec... jim f -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!89.0!Jim.Fruchterman Internet: Jim.Fruchterman@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Daveed.Mandell@p0.f460.n101.z1.fidonet.org (Daveed Mandell) (04/13/91)
Index Number: 14844 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] The discovery software coves with print docs for the sighted. It has not been made accessible for us. I tried to get info on how the PC--KPR deals with faxes, but after taling to thre people over a day and a half, we finally agred on the idea that I could get the Dsicover software, but it wuldn't even deal with the image files I wuld need to use. And, I would b on my own with the package. Arkenstone users get image-procesing software that has accessible documentation with it. It's part of the Calera sftware,and integrated into the whole package! I also thik Arkenstone is far more resposive to its customers. --Daveed--- -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!101!460.0!Daveed.Mandell Internet: Daveed.Mandell@p0.f460.n101.z1.fidonet.org
Grant.Downey@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Grant Downey) (04/13/91)
Index Number: 14859 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] On April 4, 1991 we are going to be having a demonstration here in El Paso of the Arkanstone reader by A O S of Austin along with the P C KPR. A O S is really pushing the P C KPR and are giving the Arkanstone sort of the seccond billing so to speak. Don't get me wrong, the Poop sheet they sent me clearly stated demonstration of the Arkanstone and P C KPR but then went into a story about Raymond Kurzweil. Is the PC KPR supposed to be haster than the Personal Reader? I guess what is stumping me is what are the differences. It seems as though to get a PC KPR would be more of what we already have in the Personal reader. It seems as though the Arkanstone would offer us some new and technically better options. Grant -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!89.0!Grant.Downey Internet: Grant.Downey@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Mary.Otten@p0.f1055.n261.z1.fidonet.org (Mary Otten) (04/20/91)
Index Number: 15074 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] Hi Grant. I obviously have no personal experience with either machine, but somebody over on Genie suggested that the Kurzweil was better, that is more acurate and faster if you use the discover software. Apparently Kurzweil has 2 softwares, if that's a word, for the kpr. One is like wiat you have with the stand-alone kpr, inflexible and all that, and the other is called discover, made for sighted users, aut apparently usable by a blind person if you're persistent. The guy described it as having more settings that a 747, so I'm not sure how practical it is, but he's using it. So, maybe you need to check out both kinds of software. I don't know anything about pc kpr cost. I like the Arkenstone people, so I hope their product is truly compeditive. I'd rather buy from them than from xyrox, if you know what I mean. Regards. -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!261!1055.0!Mary.Otten Internet: Mary.Otten@p0.f1055.n261.z1.fidonet.org
William.Wilson@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (William Wilson) (04/20/91)
Index Number: 15079 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] MO> discover software. Apparently Kurzweil has 2 softwares, if MO> that's a word, for the kpr. One is like wiat you have with the MO> stand-alone kpr, inflexible and all that, and the other is MO> called discover, made for sighted users, aut apparently usable MO> by a blind person if you're persistent. Mary, Is it just me, or doesn't there seem to be an analogy here with the AI/Configurability thread? Sure seems to me that these things shouldn't have to be mutually exclusive! I mean, if the Discover software can add so much to the accuracy of the PC-Kursweil, why the heck can't it be speech, and thus USER friendly as well? Yes all you technical types, I realize there may be a hardware hurdle or something like that which prevents this at this point, but hey, if they're going to resolve the graphical user interface problem for us, this one ought to be easy for them! Willie ... BlinkTalk, Dr. Deb and Silver in Pittsburgh! -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!89!William.Wilson Internet: William.Wilson@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Jim.Fruchterman@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Jim Fruchterman) (04/25/91)
Index Number: 15164 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] Hey, Willie, the problem with Discover isn't that it isn't accessible, but rather it is cumbersome to use with speech: nested menus, direct screen writes, all that stuff. TrueScan used direct screen writes, too, which is why there are now a dozen different front ends for TrueScan: EasyScan, IRIS, OsCaR, Docuread IDB, etc. The impression that I have of Discover isn't that it is more accurate per se, but that it gives you access to more features that are shielded from the user. The PC-KPR is trying to make a less complicated menu interface and so it eliminates features that are there on the board that both products share(and scanner too). One of the problems of OCR products is that commercially they are sold to power user types: who else spends $5000 and up on a time-saving peripheral? That's why TrueScan only works on an AT- power users weren't buying XTs three years ago. The interfaces are aimed at the sophisticated PC user. The application of OCR as a reading system attracts a less power-user crowd: many are moving to the PC for the OCR! The challenge for vendors is to satisfy both user camps: the people who are the visually impaired power users and the people who just want it to read and they don't want to learn about the PC at all. That's one reason why we took the standard TrueScan interface and made it work better with speech: its aimed at the power user. EasyScan is aimed at the beginning user. It still is too complex for the non-PC person, so there is pressure to simplify it more... -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!89.0!Jim.Fruchterman Internet: Jim.Fruchterman@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
robertj@tekgen.bv.tek.com (Robert Jaquiss) (04/25/91)
Index Number: 15213 I use an Arkenstone at work. The Arkenstone software is designed to allow a blind user to easily set the configuration. Because it is in a PC you can save the configuration in a file so next time you are reading that same document you can easily set your system to read the way you want it to. There are a lot of settings but you don't usually have to deal with them. The capability is there though if you need to change something you can. The Arkenstone can also tell you which way is up on your document so you can easily handle landscaped stuff. Robert Jaquiss Internet: robetj@tekgen.bv.tek.com