Jack.O'keeffe@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Jack O'keeffe) (04/05/91)
Index Number: 14634 [This is from the Silent Talk Conference] Hi Wayne, You wrote Vixen about direct audio input (DAI) so I hafta get my two cents in. The ol' Telex aids I had were no longer adequate (I insist the transistors were wearing out - couldn't be me :-) So, since you last saw me, the VA issued a new Oticon power BTE with DAI. What a wonderful difference! It's not wireless like the Telex (there is a wire across the back of my head from the dead side). But this gives it a connection for a DAI boot. I have a nice little directional microphone, and wires to connect most any other sound source to the DAI jack. Ret likes it because we can now communicate when I'm driving the car. I still need to see face to understand everything - but this is a BIG help. I recognize that what works for me won't help everyone, but I'm enthusiastic about DAI and my new Oticon. I think that the old Telex had a better T-coil though, so I'm hanging on to it. I hope you received the information I sent on the ANSI A117 standard, and I hope you will send comments to them. I get the feeling that the majority of the ANSI committee thinks "access" means nothing more than getting people in wheelchairs in and out of buildings. They are now attempting to get the A117 standard and BCMC scoping accepted in lieu of the ATBCB guidelines. If that happens, we lose most of what we hoped for under ADA. The Congress Giveth - the regulation writers take away! ... Xpress Yourself! -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!26!Jack.O'keeffe Internet: Jack.O'keeffe@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Vixen@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.org (Vixen) (04/11/91)
Index Number: 14743 [This is from the Silent Talk Conference] Hi Wayne, Well, my hearing aids do have T-switches and my Telex does have an input for external jacks so that I can plug myself into CD players and tape machines and televisions and all of that. Is this what you had in mind as a possible way for Bonnie to wire me into a sound board? Bonnie wanted to find away to take my hearing aids and Telex off and just hook me into some kind of earphones. She heas'nt tried it yet, but I am afraid if she does that, that all I will hear is a bigger jumble of noise than I already hear even with my aids on! Bonnie is an excellent Audio Engineer with very very impressive credits in her background, but I am not sure she understand about hearing loss. It seems like she is approaching this from a "making it louder will make her hear" point of view. I will let you know what happens! Keepin' the faith! . Vixen -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!203!11!Vixen Internet: Vixen@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.org
Jack.O'keeffe@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Jack O'keeffe) (04/11/91)
Index Number: 14749 [This is from the Silent Talk Conference] V> It seems like she is approaching it from a "making it louder V> will make her hear" point of view. It's good to have a friend who cares, Vixen. But that "making it louder" approach doesn't work for me. And it just might endanger residual hearing. So be cautious. I have low frequency residual hearing in my "good" ear (the best one I have :-) Anaided sounds are weak unintelligible mumbles to me. With linear amplification, they become LOUD unintelligible mumbles. That doesn't help at all. I'd rather hear the weak ones. So I usually use assistive listening devices in conjunction with my hearing aids, not as a substitute for them. My hearing aids have a non-linear amplifier with an envelope roughly complimenting my audiogram - as well as this can be done with the archaic analog technology that the hearing aid industry is unwilling to discard. The trick with ALDs is to capture the sound you're interested in as close to the source as possible, and conduct it to your ear as cleanly as possible, avoiding pollution from ambient noise. Since Bonnie is an Audio Engineer, you might want to give her a copy of your audiogram, and let her see what she can do with an equalizer to "tailor" amplification for you. Better yet, if she has access to a digital signal processor she could really tune up sound for you. But be careful not to hurt yourself - or your residual hearing. And remember that everyones hearing loss is different. What works for me may or may not work for you. ... Jack. -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!26!Jack.O'keeffe Internet: Jack.O'keeffe@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org
rudy@mtqua.att.com (Rudy Vener) (04/14/91)
Index Number: 14861 In article <18602@bunker.isc-br.com> Vixen@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.org writes: >Index Number: 14743 > >Bonnie wanted to find away to take my hearing aids and Telex off >and just hook me into some kind of earphones. She heas'nt tried it >yet, but I am afraid if she does that, that all I will hear is a >bigger jumble of noise than I already hear even with my aids on! >Bonnie is an excellent Audio Engineer with very very impressive >credits in her background, but I am not sure she understand about >hearing loss. It seems like she is approaching this from a "making >it louder will make her hear" point of view. Hi Vixen, Show Bonnie your audiogram and tell her that THIS is the frequency response she will need to compensate. That should give her the general idea. BTW. I just applied to Seeing Eye and Guiding Eyes. (I like to do comparison shopping). Rudy Vener AT&T BTL uucp: att!mtqua!rudy
Vixen@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.org (Vixen) (04/15/91)
Index Number: 14870 [This is from the Silent Talk Conference] Hi Jack, I think I know what you mean reagrding your explaination of "making louder don't make you hear." I think that what you describe is much the same with me. If I take off my hearing aids and ALD, I still "hear" loud sounds and noise and even a loud human voice in my better ear, but, I don't understand what I am hearing. It is all just so much "noise!" While I have been in and out of the music business for much of my life and around electronic thingies, I don't really know that much about them, but I would have thought that the best approach, as I believe Wayne also suggested, might be to somehow lock my Telex onto something coming through the sound console? This because not only do I have a volume loss in my hearing, but an "intelligibility" problem with what I do hear. In fact, you may recall, that my loss began as a problem with speech discrimination and just kept going. Jack, here is an interesting thing. In response to your comment that I should be careful with my residual hearing (being cautious of exposure to loud sounds Et Cetera). I told my ear surgeon that I still go to loyd concerts and I am often backstage or very close to the sound source (amplifiers, speakers and all of that) and expressed a concern that I might damage or hasten the departure of my residual hearing. He told me that in my case, it probably really was'nt a big deal and that due to the nature of my hearing loss, there is a natural "muffling" going on and that it probably would'nt matter one way or the other and I should just enjoy myself. I would be very suspicious, but my ear doc is a very good doc and highly respected by both hearing people and the local deaf community and a number of agencies for the deaf and hearing impaired. The word being that I couldnt be in much better hands. Any thougghts? Of course, I would imagine that there would be more possibility of more damage being done to me having "loud sound" plugged directly into my ear than sitting near loud speakers at a rock concert? Oh well, I am getting totally confused. Anyway, I thought maybe Bonnie could wire me into the drummer and I could use that to keep time? Sort of a human metronome! Keepin' the faith! . Vixen ..."It is'nt over until they all come home!" -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!203!11!Vixen Internet: Vixen@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.org
rudy@mtqua.att.com (Rudy Vener) (04/19/91)
Index Number: 15024 In article <18730@bunker.isc-br.com> Vixen@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.org writes: >Index Number: 14870 > >Anyway, I thought maybe Bonnie could wire me into the drummer and I >could use that to keep time? Sort of a human metronome! > Vixen, Have you tried switching both your aids to the T position and putting on a set of Radio Shack foam padded hi fidelity headphones? This works great for me. I adjust the volume in both the aids and the stereo until everything is nicely balanced. I remember seeing an advertisement in the latest DAK catalog for a wireless headphone system. you can plug the 'jack' end into whatever sound source you have abailable and the headphones communicate with the jack via infra-red pickup. Should be worth a try. The range is limited. I think they said something like 20 feet, but that might be enough for your needs. Rudy Vener AT&T BTL uucp: att!mtqua!rudy
Vixen@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.org (Vixen) (04/26/91)
Index Number: 15242 [This is from the Silent Talk Conference] Hi Rudy, No, I have'nt tried using regular of Hi-Fi type headphones. I just use my aids and my FM remote system. My Telex plugs directly into televisions, tape recorders, CD players and all of that and they do have "T" switches, so I do pretty well once I am plugged direct. I guess jamming with other live musicians without being able to hear is just a tougher ballgame! Although, as you have probably seen, I have begun to get a lot of good ideas and suggestions. I like the idea of wireless headphones! That is pretty neat! I will have to look into that! How have you been? Keepin' the faith! . Vixen -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!203!11!Vixen Internet: Vixen@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.org