Gerry.Grimm@p0.f15.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Gerry Grimm) (06/28/90)
Index Number: 8964
[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]
The Seattle Hearing Impaired BBS is actually two BBS's, one
running under PC-Hex and the other running under OPUS. The
reason for having two lines is that the PC-Hex version is TDD
and ASCII compatible...that is you can call that line
(206-526-5020) with either a TDD in Baudot mode or in ASCII mode
or with a computer. It is slow though, at just a maximum of 300
baud ASCII. The OPUS version (206-526-2744) runs at up to 2400
baud - computers only (though I suppose you could call with a
TDD in ASCII mode at 300 baud...you just wouldn't be able to
keep up with it as it sped across your 20 char. screen on the
TDD). Currently, we are able to share the regular messages with
both programs, since they are running under DesqView on the same
computer ( an IBM PC/XT with a 20 meg hard drive...so it's not
very speedy in any case) and write the same format messages.
Debbie Salo is the sysop and has worked very hard to make the
BBS a good one...but it still needs a lot of work. The PC-Hex
program is written by Dick Barth in Maryland (I think that's
where he lives), but it has a fair number of bugs. The
advantage to using it tho, is it's ability to speak to the
Phone-TTY made modem, which we had donated to us by the Seattle
Modem Users Group (SMUG). That modem was purchased prior to
other modems coming out that were more compatible with a Hayes
modem (ie. the Ultratec modem). So we searched for software to
run on it and found PC-Hex.
Gotta run...but I'll be back to tell you more later....bye....
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Internet: Gerry.Grimm@p0.f15.n343.z1.fidonet.orgFrank.Whitney@f1000.n261.z1.fidonet.org (Frank Whitney) (07/13/90)
Index Number: 9123
[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]
Hi Danny, I'm sorry that I took so long in answering your message.
I'm 44 years old and have been a quadriplegic for almost 24 years. I
received my undergraduate degree in mathematics and later earned my
masters degree in computer science. I've been working for the
government for over 17 years in computer science and operations
research. I've been quite busy the last couple of weeks trying to
start a consulting business where I will be marketing speech
recognition technology. That along with my regular job has really
kept me from posting as much as I'd like but it looks like things are
beginning to come together. God bless, I hope to hear from you soon
and hopefully will respond to your next message in a much more timely
manner.
Frank.
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Internet: Frank.Whitney@f1000.n261.z1.fidonet.orgJeff.Salzberg@f729.n106.z1.fidonet.org (Jeff Salzberg) (09/25/90)
Index Number: 10628
LM> I live basically in the country just outside Houston.
Lee, you might be interested (as might other users here) in the bbs I
run for the University of Houston. The Stage Door (713-749-7211) is an
arts-oriented BBS with a message area specifically dedicated to Arts
and the disAbled.
Self-Promotion Mode: OFF
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Internet: Jeff.Salzberg@f729.n106.z1.fidonet.orgWilliam.Wilson@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (William Wilson) (10/05/90)
Index Number: 10937
[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]
GP> Now, what's this portable DEC-Talk? Do you mean the card?
GP> Must have missed this one.
Gary,
No, not the card, but a real portable external Dectalk, at a cost
of $1500 or there abouts!
All I know is it sounded darn good, it is faster than the full size
Dec, and it looks like it wouldn't be a bad thing to have around as a
backup should your Votrax bite the dust!
Willie
... BlinkTalk, Dr. Deb and Silver in Pittsburgh!
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Internet: William.Wilson@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.orgTzipporah.Benavraham@f608.n107.z1.fidonet.org (Tzipporah Benavraham) (11/05/90)
Index Number: 11507
[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]
I am so happy to meet you. I will cross post to the kids
in Japan. I think this is incredible. These deaf kids
know nothing of the civil rights we have here. There IS
no mainstreaming in Japan of the handicapped. In fact
Mra Naya'a school is a government run school. Only
VERY ELITE hearing impaired ever get into education
at all. Most are ignored and left at home. The lack
of civil rights is amazing!
I hope you can tell them about how you grew up
before PL 94-142. I think it is so sad that kids have
no access to education universally. Also, are you an
oralist or a signer? How did you get to the place you did
as a teacher of the hearing impaired also? And do you feel
we are better off now since the equal rights laws or does it
make it harder?
Remember these kids also live in one of the most
technology oriented countries of the world! It is estimated
1 out of ever 2 people owns a computer! In fact computers
are SO cheap there that they are as common as transistor
radios here. Here, we have to think a bit.. a computer may
cost upwards of a month to 4 months pay! These kids are
not going to have trouble getting tech.. but getting the
education to USE the tech is an important barrier they
still have. Even at that there are not many programs
(computer or vocational education) for them either.
I asked the Gallaudet high to log in here to speak
with the kids also. They have sent me hundreds of questions
about America. A simple one is, "What happened at Gallaudet?
Did the deaf get equal education after that?" They are
amazed at I. King Jordan. I sent them his speech. And they
love it. Remember also these kids are learning English
too. It is unheard of from what I understand for a hearing
impaired teenager here to be "forced" to learn a foreign
lanaguage, let alone write it on a computer network! It
is MANDATORY no matter what in Japan to learn to read
write and communicate in another language to get a high school
diploma.. including those elite hearing impaired who do get to
school.
Hope to hear more.
Tzipporah
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Internet: Tzipporah.Benavraham@f608.n107.z1.fidonet.orgBogie.Bugsalewicz@f348.n115.z1.fidonet.org (Bogie Bugsalewicz) (11/06/90)
Index Number: 11560
To: All
Hi! I've been reading the echo for several months now, and thought
I'd just post a message to introduce myself and maybe get
acquainted with all the regulars here. I'm the sysop of a
disability-oriented board in Chicago called I CAN! We try to be
pretty much a "regular" board with games, downloads, etc., to try
to encourage a lot of callers who might otherwise shy away from a
board with our orientation. Still to no avail, though. Our user
base is pathetically small. I'm almost tempted to throw in the
towel, but I'm a pretty bullheaded sort and I don't give up that
easily. If anyone would like to give us a call and maybe offer a
few suggestions, we'd welcome them. The number is 312-736-7388 and
we're up from 8:00 am to 6:00 pm seven days a week. We've been in
operation since early August, and we're not yet in FIDOnet,
although we hope to join as soon as I can afford a faster modem. We
really would like to pick up this echo as well as some of the
others.
I suppose that a little personal background would be in order. I'm
35 years old and able bodied, and my co-sysop (and fiance), Corrie,
is 25 and has cerebral palsy, epilepsy, and arthritis. We met a
few years ago when I was dispatching for a Special Service bus
company. Corrie managed to talk one of my operators into giving
her my home phone, and she threw caution to the winds in her
determination to see the face behind the voice on the drivers'
radios. Anyway, one thing led to another, she came to stay for a
weekend, and that wekend's been going on for three and a half years
now. It shows every indication of continuing for a long time to
come. :-)
I'm looking forward to eventually picking up the echo and
maintaining a regular correspondence with quite a few of the folks
here, because I've noticed some really neat people popping up
here. So, I guess maybe I'm getting a bit long winded and I should
shut up already. Again, hello to the 'gang' and if you get a
chance, drop by our board and say hi.
Regards,
Bogie
Via SLMAIL v1.36M (#0287)
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Internet: Bogie.Bugsalewicz@f348.n115.z1.fidonet.orgWarren.King@p0.f429.n275.z1.fidonet.org (Warren King) (11/06/90)
Index Number: 11566 > To: All > > Hi! I've been reading the echo for several months now, and thought > I'd just post a message to introduce myself and maybe get acquainted > with all the regulars here. I'm the sysop of a disability-oriented > board in Chicago called I CAN! We try to be pretty much a "regular" > board with games, downloads, etc., to try to encourage a lot of > callers who might otherwise shy away from a board with our > orientation. Still to no avail, though. Our user base is pathetically > small. I'm almost tempted to throw in the towel, but I'm a pretty > bullheaded sort and I don't give up that easily. If anyone would like > to give us a call and maybe offer a few suggestions, we'd welcome > them. The number is 312-736-7388 and we're up from 8:00 am to 6:00 pm > seven days a week. We've been in operation since early August, and > we're not yet in FIDOnet, although we hope to join as soon as I can > afford a faster modem. We really would like to pick up this echo as > well as some of the others. > Bogie, Give it time! If you have a board that is offering something different, it takes time to build a user base. I was told when I started my BBS to expect 3 years to get a good, solid base of the type of users I wanted. For a BBS to be successful, you have to respond to the needs of your users. The first year that you are up, you are expecting the users to respond to YOU. It is only after a period of time that you can feel each other out to find the most workable setup. If you hope to attract disAbled users, it may even take longer than that! Most do not have access to the equipment necessary to hookup to your board and the vast majority of the "counselors" are computer illiterate and so can not and do not recommend that their "clients" can get anything from your board. I have found less than 10% of the "agencies" in my area had even heard of modems, much less, know what a BBS is! You are going to have to depend on word-of-mouth to spread the word, and then be sensitive to the needs of your users. BTW, do you have access to, or can you get access to the Handy.Sysop echo? That might be a better place to discuss this thread. -Warren- -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!275!429.0!Warren.King Internet: Warren.King@p0.f429.n275.z1.fidonet.org
James.Womack@f14.n300.z1.fidonet.org (James Womack) (11/08/90)
Index Number: 11620
[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]
I am a bit rushed for time at the moment, but will try to run over
some of the things you brought up.
I lived pretty much a neglected life before entering a deaf school.
I went to gallaudet because I was given a test while at the deaf school
and passed it. I didn't really understand what it all meant until my
sophmore year at Gallaudet.
Oh shoot, I am forgetting what else you asked me. Let's see, i am a
strong supporter of ASL. I myself became deaf at age 13, butlearned
ASL from deaf peers so that I became rather proficient with it. After
going through all those sign systems (it is inappropriate to call them
languages because technically they are not) such as SEE, LOVE, SE etc
and seeinghow they did not advance deaf people's education-I turned
to ASL. Using ASL to pair English and to speed up learning processes
inthe classroom, I kept it. I kept it also because of the sheer joy
I saw in my kids' faces when they were taught in T H E I R language
and began to grasp conceots they could not before. I also support ASL
after seeing mainstreamed kids whose parents finally realized the mainstream
program was not helping their child and brought them to the residential
school. I watch these kids' self-esteem, education and grades rise
over time. I also watched other people who graduated from other programs
gravitate towards ASL. Obviously,this natural process is telling us
something if we will onlylisten. So I am a hardcore signer.
I am all for the civil rights and new handicapped rights laws. they
are overdue. there are a few aspects about them that i don't like,
but generally i am for the package.
Sorry , gotta go.
James
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Internet: James.Womack@f14.n300.z1.fidonet.orgClayton.Montgomery@f10.n210.z1.fidonet.org (Clayton Montgomery) (11/16/90)
Index Number: 11727
[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]
HI,
First of all my name is Clayton Montgomery. I've read through most of
the messages in this Net. area and was wondering who to talk to and
your message to which I am replying made me decide to "pick" on you.
You see I'm a Jr. in highschool and have recently met some of the deaf
kids a school and church. Some of them can talk with me just great but
some of them just can't read my lips so I want to learn to sign but
didn't know which way would be best and what way to learn it would be
better for a hearing person. So I'm asking you. Do you think a
hearing person should learn ASL for standard everyday talk or would
another be more appropriate? Should I just get a book on signing, ask
someone to teach me, or take a class at a local college? Well thinks
for your time and if you could get back to me I would be very greatful.
Signed,
Clayton Montgomery
Backersfield, CA
The Dew Drop Inn
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Internet: Clayton.Montgomery@f10.n210.z1.fidonet.orgJames.Womack@f14.n300.z1.fidonet.org (James Womack) (11/20/90)
Index Number: 11885
[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]
If you objective to to associate with deaf people as well as talk withthem,
you need to one thing above all else. Learn from the people you plan
to associate with. Learn the manner in which they communicate with
each other. A bookis fine if it is used in conjunction with a formal
sign language class. Making a friend with a deaf person and letting
him/her teach you is even better. You will learn to talk withthe person
the way they talk with each other, whatever sign system it is they
use.
Eventually, you will find (unless you already know it) a need for ASL.
Your circle of deaf friends will expand if you make it your busines
to be actively involved in things deafies get involved in. As that
happens, you will have contact with the main bodies of the deaf community.
This main body are comprised of mostly ASL users.
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Internet: James.Womack@f14.n300.z1.fidonet.orgTzipporah.Benavraham@f608.n107.z1.fidonet.org (Tzipporah Benavraham) (11/20/90)
Index Number: 11886
[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]
Ann I am also familiar as you know with RTID and of course the fabulous
Dr Norman Coombs. You know that pretty well. I know the academy at
Gally has two grad from a local high here and is remarkably good for
the "above average academy" student.
The Gallaudet board did a couple interesting things also that most
people are not aware of als. The national Center for Law and the Deaf
has done a remarkable job of keeping the civil rights of hearing
impaired in order. Their law school graduated 9 top US Dept of Justice
lawyers also and has done an array of wonderful things with US Justice
in the past. Like they wrote up an instrument called "The
Victim/Witness Program for the Handicapped" with a law student of Gally
named Myri Per-Lee. Myri has her law degree now and is practicing in
the Federal district court in Washington DC! Myri is deaf!
I know also that Clara barto is their tech person. I respect her
highly. She is also trying to push an idea that sign language should be
an accreddited course of LANGUAGE at Universities as an option to a
romance or slavic language course. Her idea is that there may well be
more people around who would sign in the evryday environments and
provide more access globally to the 13 million deaf and hearing
impaired of the country.
Please be well. I am happy to say hi online again.
Tzippy
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Internet: Tzipporah.Benavraham@f608.n107.z1.fidonet.orgMichael.Allen@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.org (Michael Allen) (02/05/91)
Index Number: 13496
[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]
Hello Clayton
Well think the best way is ask Your school for help maybe they Can help you out and give the info To help you read lips
Or tell were you can help you get
Help take care my talk you soon With that bid you peace my freind
Michael Allen Sacramento
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Internet: Michael.Allen@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.orgTerry.Martin@f30.n3603.z1.fidonet.org (Terry Martin) (05/03/91)
Index Number: 15314
[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]
Greetings!
My name is Terry Martin and I am the National Sales Manager for
Henter-Joyce, producers of JAWS (Job Access With Speech). I started
with Henter-Joyce in January of this year. My wife and 10 month old
daughter are former residents of New York State. Henter-Joyce is
located in Florida.
I have used adaptive equipment for many years. My first piece
of high tech equipment was a portable V-Tek. WOW! Well, it was high
tech when it was introduced. The Vtek is 10 years old now and it is
still working. Now that I am into speach, I don't use that much
anymore. I have been using JAWS for almost two years. I am also using
the Arkenstone Reader and low-vision aids. I have been legally blind
since birth.
I was maintreamed in the public school system before the word
became popular. Mom wanted to send me to a state school for the blind
but, I told her that I would miss my friends. The fight began. Some of
my past awards and achievements include; one of the youngest Eagle
Scouts in th e United States, I was a champion wrestler, I was on the
Dean's List in college, and employee of the month. That is enough of
that stuff. Now you know a little bit about me.
I am participating in this echo to talk to all of you about JAWS
and Henter-Joyce. I want to hear your coments and suggestions. I have
been reading messages for the past few days. This may sound different
but, I really mean this, "I am hear to learn." Everyone of you on this
echo have a great deal to offer. I am looking forward to sharing
information. Your input is very important to us. I also want to have
fun. UPS! I am getting my two minute warning. I am going to have to
say so long. I am looking forward to talking with you.
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