[misc.handicap] Sign Friends

Fran.O'gorman@f94.n272.z1.fidonet.org (Fran O'gorman) (08/21/90)

Index Number: 9937

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

Hi Ann,
     Thanks for the clarification, Stu said something similar--about 
Silenttalk being for signers as well as speechreading oral hearing 
impaired.  I guess I got that impression erroniously.  I don't know what 
to say about the fact that it's in BASIC --if I could compile it would be 
faster, but QuickBasic handles graphics quite differently and it would 
practically be a matter of re-writing the whole thing.  As to the speed 
of the animation I intentionally slowed it down, it COULD be speeded up. 
It's default speed is actually a bit slow--compared to the way people 
proficient in sign would sign, but that kind of change would not be 
difficult.  If the people you're referring to mean the speed of animation 
as opposed to the speed of loading modules etc, let me know and I could 
change the initial setup and the speed adjustment utility (which is Ross 
Calloway's program) could also be changed.
   Fran

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Ann.Stalnaker@p0.f14.n385.z1.fidonet.org (Ann Stalnaker) (03/15/91)

Index Number: 13977

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

 > It's a little hard to not notice the persons facial expressions,
 > afterall, the face is attatched to the lips and vice versa..

It would be to me, but it's not always the case for others.  I
have to adjust to reading the lips of those who were dark glasses
since you can't see their eyes.  Eye viewing is very important
to me - even though it might get one in trouble at times!  :-)

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Jack.O'keeffe@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Jack O'keeffe) (05/14/91)

Index Number: 15582

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

Hi Fran,

 FO> My thought is that, by and large, the education sector is NOT
 FO> involved in BBS's and FIDO and has had the least exposure to the
 FO> program.  I wouldn't want to take SF out of the realm of
 FO> shareware totally but if a company like Hartley marketed it,
 FO> maybe more people in education would find out about it.

Yes, the education sector does seem to march to the beat of their
own drummer, with lots of emphasis on "WIMP" interfaces and stuff
like that.  At the RESNA conference last year I learned, to my
chagrin, that the "AbleData" assistive tech database was all on
Apple Macs, with only nebulous plans to port it to the MS/DOS world.
Perhaps WINDOWS will change things.

With SF written in BASIC, it should be fairly easy to transport it
to Appleland. This would probably be necessary for educational use.

 FO> Not sure how this would work--being both commercial AND
 FO> shareware--and of course, this is all predicated on them liking
 FO> and wanting it in the first place, which may not even happen...

A few others have done things like that. And how can they NOT like it?
I hope this works out and gives you some reward and recognition for
all the effort and talent you've put into SF.

... Jack.

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Ann.Stalnaker@p0.f14.n385.z1.fidonet.org (Ann Stalnaker) (05/14/91)

Index Number: 15593

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

 > My thought is that, by and large, the education sector
 > is NOT involved in BBS's and FIDO and has had the least
 > exposure to the program.  I wouldn't want to take SF out
 > of the realm of shareware totally but if a company like
 > Hartley marketed it, maybe people in education would
 > find out about it.  Not sure how this would work--being
 > both commercial AND shareware--and of course, this is all
 > predicated on them liking and wanting it in the first
 > place, which may not even happen... but it would be nice
 > ...

Fran, I think the education sector is getting more involved
with BBSing and networking.  I know they are in Oklahoma and
Texas since so many schools have installed computer labs and
are networking with other schools in their area.  So, don't
give up, give it a bit more time.

I think it would work in both commercial and shareware, in
fact, I know it would because there are many commercial
programs that come down the pike via SDN.  You could arrange
for a demo type file so people could try them out before
purchasing them and/or could include a required questionnaire
for specific individuals who would use SF for personal use
(especially those who need to learn signing as a necessity).
I guess what I'm trying to point out is let the businesses
pay the full charge of the program and specific individuals
a lower rate.  Kind of like how the TDD sales used to be -
a cheaper rate for hearing impaired individuals and a full
price for hearing individuals.  It's just a thought on my
part even though I'm not doing a good job explaining...

Ah - late hours are getting to me!  (grin)

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