Bill.Scarborough@p0.f4.n382.z1.fidonet.org (Bill Scarborough) (05/07/91)
Index Number: 15436 [This is from the Spinal Injury Conference] Workers were piling up in the parking lot as swing shifts successively were let out from work. There were about 4,000 cars in the parking lots and no way out. Finally the cops constructed ADAPT Road, by driving back and forth across the narrowest part of the grassy embankment surrounding the rest of the complex, and creating make shift ramps across the curbs. Witnesses said the line of cars was something to see. Finally at about 7pm, when 80% of the cars were finally out of the area, ADAPT formed up and marched out proudly, another successful action! Sullivan has heard our demand to meet with him, and hear what his refusal has brought down. Tomorrow we head for the belly of the beast, into DC and straight for the Health and Human Services Administration. Gail Wilensky, head of Health Care Financing Adminstration, is holding a press conference to announce the morbidity (death) rate of nursing homes for last year. ADAPT will have a few announcements to make of our own. --- By Stephanie Thomas, Bob Kafka, and Tom Olin --- Reposted from Yellow Dream Machine of Austin, Texas (512) 473-2702 . -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!382!4.0!Bill.Scarborough Internet: Bill.Scarborough@p0.f4.n382.z1.fidonet.org
John.Lynch@f1000.n261.z1.fidonet.org (John Lynch) (05/07/91)
Index Number: 15439 [This is from the Spinal Injury Conference] ADAPT really did a great job. They kept mothers from getting to their children, fathers from getting to second jobs necessary to support their families. Yes, they were a pain, but gained no sympathy, but made a few enemies. Did the union come out and provide support as 1,000s of employees were kept from their children. Especially when they were not even part of the agency that had nothing to do with their needs of attendents for home. I am still in favor of their needs and desires. I was rather proud of their first days efforts. But not their childish and inconsiderate second day efforts. Regards, John -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!261!1000!John.Lynch Internet: John.Lynch@f1000.n261.z1.fidonet.org
Bill.Scarborough@p0.f420.n141.z1.fidonet.org (Bill Scarborough) (05/09/91)
Index Number: 15460 [This is from the Spinal Injury Conference] If only by Vulcan logic and Betazoid intuition, humans responded to the heartfelt needs of people with disabilities to be liberated. If only standing by and presenting charts and citing figures, that the doors would be opened from the nursing homes and state schools and other institutions, and people locked up in them could be brought out into the sunlight of living in the community. Many ADAPT members do their time also in making those presentations before committees, passing resolutions at political conventions, quoting facts and figures and drawing up charts. These things we have not forgotten. However, good ideas (such as independent living,) have a way of being sent to the staid and proper committees to die. And many good people have been sent to the correct and staid and proper institutions to die. There may be mistakes in tactics. But the basic need to maintain revolutionary struggle is not a mistake. -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!420.0!Bill.Scarborough Internet: Bill.Scarborough@p0.f420.n141.z1.fidonet.org
Joe.Chamberlain@f140.n150.z1.fidonet.org (Joe Chamberlain) (05/09/91)
Index Number: 15462 [This is from the Spinal Injury Conference] JL> ADAPT really did a great job. They kept mothers from getting to their JL> children, fathers from getting to second jobs necessary to support their JL> families. Yes, they were a pain, but gained no sympathy, but made a few JL> enemies. Did the union come out and provide support as 1,000s of JL> employees were kept from their children. Especially when they were not JL> even part of the agency that had nothing to do with their needs of JL> attendents for home. The disabled don't need more enemies and therefore careful attention should be directed toward getting the message across in a positive manner. Taking over buildings, staging sitdowns, and blocking traffic are college campus tactics used by students. -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!150!140!Joe.Chamberlain Internet: Joe.Chamberlain@f140.n150.z1.fidonet.org
Walter.Hart@f10.n130.z1.fidonet.org (Walter Hart) (05/09/91)
Index Number: 15464 [This is from the Spinal Injury Conference] John, as a matter of fact the union organizers outside the building did show support and unity with a JUST cause. I am surprised that anyone with a disabilty can not understand that the good of the many who will benefit from available attendant care out weighs the MOMENTARY inconvienance! -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!130!10!Walter.Hart Internet: Walter.Hart@f10.n130.z1.fidonet.org
John.Lynch@f1000.n261.z1.fidonet.org (John Lynch) (05/14/91)
Index Number: 15616 [This is from the Spinal Injury Conference] BS> If only by Vulcan logic and Betazoid intuition, humans responded BS> to the heartfelt needs of people with disabilities to be liberated. BS> There may be mistakes in tactics. But the basic need to BS> maintain Fully agree that many of the disabled need the safty net ADAPT is asking for in order to get a home, and possible a job. But They aimed their tacts at the wrong audience. Local news really didn't even go into the needs, just said they blocked roads. It wasn't till they went to DC that national news pickedup on it.[B I definately wish them a a rightful conclusion to their needs. Becouse, but for the VA, there goes I. Regards, John -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!261!1000!John.Lynch Internet: John.Lynch@f1000.n261.z1.fidonet.org
Joe.Chamberlain@f140.n150.z1.fidonet.org (Joe Chamberlain) (05/14/91)
Index Number: 15620 [This is from the Spinal Injury Conference] BS> If only by Vulcan logic and Betazoid intuition, humans responded BS> to the heartfelt needs of people with disabilities to be liberated. I spent six months in a nursing home. Six months of plotting and devising, and saving to get out. I succeeded. BS> However, good ideas (such as independent living,) have a way BS> of being sent to the staid and proper committees to die. And many BS> good people have been sent to the correct and staid and proper BS> institutions to die. Inglis House in Philadelphia didn't die in committee. Many other similar places didn't die in committee. In fact, most of them were born in committee. Committees were where plans for thier birth were formulated. Committees were where the funding was secured. Committees are what keeps them running and growing. BS> There may be mistakes in tactics. But the basic need to maintain BS> revolutionary struggle is not a mistake. I'll repeat what I said in the disabled echo. The system has a way of working when you work the system. I have been involved with disability issues and legislations since the mid 60s. Check out my credits in WHO WHO'S IN THE EAST 1980. Lobby each and every Senator and Congressman. Repeat the process. Repeat the process. Get on every TV show. Keep creating ways to bring public attention to your cause. Get the mayor, councilwomen, government offical, or TV personality to spend part of their working day confined to a wheelchair. I have a live in attendent. We trade talents for services. He has a place to live and I have the help I need. He has my talents as an educator and I have his assistance. He has his food provided and I have someone to fix my meals. I think that jumping out of your wheelchair and crawling is demeaning and portrays the disabled in a subserviant role. I suggest you stay chairbound and face your antagonist across the meeting table or in the media like a capable adult. Shed the pat on the head role of Jerry's kids and sit tall as an adult who deserves the same rights every able bodied individual takes for granted. The disable community does not need further enemies, but rather we need intelligent advocacy. We don't need beggars, but rather individuals and groups who will use the existing laws to demand the equal rights granted under such laws. We don't need misguided militancy, but rather individuals who recognize gaps in the existing laws and who will find congressmen who will pass laws to close those gaps. -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!150!140!Joe.Chamberlain Internet: Joe.Chamberlain@f140.n150.z1.fidonet.org
Frank.Whitney@p0.f1000.n261.z1.fidonet.org (Frank Whitney) (05/14/91)
Index Number: 15621 [This is from the Spinal Injury Conference] >John, as a matter of fact the union organizers outside the building did show >support and unity with a JUST cause. I am surprised that anyone with a >disabilty can not understand that the good of the many who will >benefit from available attendant care out weighs the MOMENTARY >inconvienance! > Well, I can you had I been working in that building as was John and developed a bed sore because I was not able to get home in time you would have had one pissed cookie. I relate more with Joe on this one. I'm not saying that changes don't need to be made, they do but we need more friends then enemies and I don't believe that your tactics earn us any friends! Frank. -- Via Opus Msg Kit v1.12 -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!261!1000.0!Frank.Whitney Internet: Frank.Whitney@p0.f1000.n261.z1.fidonet.org
Walter.Hart@f10.n130.z1.fidonet.org (Walter Hart) (05/17/91)
Index Number: 15719 [This is from the Spinal Injury Conference] Frank, I agree that the Minor inconvienances were a problem the overall need was served. When it is understood that ADAPT serves as a stalking horse for our more timid folks and as a far left voice, then the softening effect becomes more apparent. It is my sincere hope that no lasting damage resulted. Pressure sores can be severe, hope everything works out for the best. -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!130!10!Walter.Hart Internet: Walter.Hart@f10.n130.z1.fidonet.org